Maybe you can consider them sarcastic, but they aren’t intended that way.
What is required from a 1st time poster to not be referred to as a “troll”?
Once you rip someone (or someone rips you) a new one in the Pit, do you then keep a list to remind you not to be nice to them in the future, or do you just put them on total “ignore”?
First question - don’t disagree with consensus (this goes for everyone forever, not just first time posters). You are a troll if you disagree with popular beliefs.
The word does get thrown around a lot, but someone who makes a bad first impression is likely to be accused of trolling. A poster who joins the board and almost immediately gets into a fight about some controversial issue (or a bunch of them) or is seen to be taking extreme positions, there’s a decent chance someone will say you’re a troll. A new poster who eases in, makes an effort to get to know the board and comes off as reasonable is less likely to be accused of trolling.
You’ve seen it happen and you know it, so I’m not going to bother digging up examples. If you’re going to pretend it doesn’t happen I’m going to think you’re trolling.
In practical terms, “get to know the board” and “come off as reasonable” mean “learn and profess to agree with consensus, or keep your mouth shut if you disagree” to many people here.
Personally, I’d just ignore that thread. Eventually, I’ll forget who that was I got into it with, and we’ll probably find some other situation where we get along fine.
Either that or we’ll get into it again and then I’ll remember them.
Disclaimer: As a mod, I’m not allowed to put people on ignore, so your results may vary.
Every thread’s a new opportunity and I have no problems arguing with someone in the Pit and sharing cuddly stories or whatever with them in MPSIMs an hour later.
Well, disagreeing tends to lead to arguments, so yeah, someone who disagrees is probably going to be seen as “overtly argumentative” and therefore trolling. Hence, never disagree with consensus.
There are plenty of people here who don’t agree with the consensus and who aren’t considered to be trolls. Just disagreeing does not get you labelled a troll; it’s how you go about it.
How you’ve been received here has not been based solely on the fact that you have disagreed with people. If you are unaware of that, then your observational skills are evidently at fault.
So I’ve noticed a lot of people here will accuse me of trolling if I disagree with the consensus. I’ll post my disagreement and why I disagree, people respond and an argument ensues. I just got a warning for “trolling” and “hijacking” because of this . So I want to be clear on what the rule is. Are you allowed to disagree, but not respond when people argue with your disagreement? Are you not allowed to disagree at all? Are you allowed to disagree until someone accuses you of trolling, at which point you’re meant to go “you caught me, I never really believed my opinion, I only posted it and a long explanation of my rationale to piss you off, because I derive enjoyment from that”?
So what is the rule? If you ARE allowed to disagree AND then engage in an argument/debate, at what point does it become trolling?
I disagree.
Seriously though, I’ve lurked a bit but I’m a new poster here. I’ve posted in several forums and even disagreed with a moderator in the pit and I didn’t get called a troll nor did I notice anyone getting upset during the conversation.
Seems like it to me. I’m pretty damn polite by the standards of this board (until someone else gets abusive or condescending anyway), so it’s not like I provoke people. All I do is disagree and get accused of trolling and/or hijacking.
Also, this is an example of the catch 22 that seems to exist on this site. I’m aware that we’re moving away from the original topic, but it’s not my fault that people are addressing things like this to me, so I can either ignore those posts and look like I agree, or respond and look like I’m trying to hijack. So what the fuck do I do? And this is a mod creating a hijack, but I’m pretty sure I’ll be the one to get the blame for it.