A friend just told me her marriage is a mess

I think the post you’re responding to has a misplaced quote mark. I think **Dallas Jones **meant:

She: “Honey, do you want to know what Twickster said about you when we were having our problems?”
He: “What a bitch! I don’t think you should talk to her anymore.”

Ah, yeah, that does make more sense, thanks.

That’s a lot of handle. I’m sorry for her. My father was extremely abusive to my mother and then to us kids. It didn’t start out with physical abuse, “just” emotional abuse, which escalated over time.

Here’s some information about abuse.

It goes on and gives a checklist.

They have people you can talk to, and they should be better about giving advice.

It’s good that they are in counseling together, but she should probably live apart while she thinks about it. Not that you can necessarily suggest that, but sometime abusers use counseling as part of the process of stringing their partner along. The more important thing is that she has individual counseling to see why she’s staying with someone abusive.

I hope it goes well.

Thanks, ToykyoBayer, very helpful.

I’ll be seeing her Thursday for a work-related event, but we’ll be having coffee after and I hope we can talk then.