Guys like to talk fishing. Brag about how many fish you’ve caught, how long you played them, etc…
All I am saying is that statistically in my case, the correlation between early sex and no relationship is very strong. This can (and should) be attributed to my emotional immaturity and insecurities at the time. Since the guy in this scenario is only 23, I’m making an assumption that he’s as emotionally immature as I was at the time (which might be completely wrong).
Mjeh. The truth is that you feel like something is missing inside you and you’re hoping that someone else will fill the hole in your heart. Everyone goes through this. We all think we are flawed somehow and that we need someone else to complete us, thus we get stuck in endless games of relationship. Women pretend to be weak, men pretend to be strong… yada yada.
The only real way out of the carousel is to sit down, shut up, relax and ask yourself “Who/what the fuck am I? Why am I doing this?” and deal with the shit that comes up. Before you deal with your emotional crap you can’t really love anyone or have a real relationship anyway.
Yeah, it’s all about that bass. 
Very close to 100% of the time. I may go back to get laid now and then but for some reason yes I loose interest. There have been some exceptions when conversation went extremely well and the chemistry was very strong.
BS meter back on high. It’s been swinging back and forth - I go from “no one this naive or lacking in self confidence would admit it so freely,” to “well, I guess it’s possible.” But this latest complete refusal to admit that he just wants sex, the endless plaintive cries that “I just don’t want to end feeling like piece of meet” are too much. And we have the start of “second thoughts” that allows her to milk the thread even longer.
I like a good story as much as anyone, but this one’s getting tiresome.
Yeah, maybe.
I guess I’m just puzzled by the apparent willingness of women to hand over the control over their sex lives to emotionally immature 23-year-olds, and their expectations. Why should Marlyn care what the guy thinks of her after a steaming first date of lube-aided freaky anal? If he doesn’t “respect” her, fuck that guy. He’s a dweeb in a Cobalt. He’s free to piss off and have a fine and dandy rest of his life, if that’s what he wants.
Now, there are many reasons not to jump into bed with Cobalt. I wouldn’t do it, based on the information provided so far. But he’s just some asshole. If I wanted to bonk him on the first date, how he felt about me in the morning, whether I was whore enough or Madonna enough, or whether or not he would brag about the incident to his friends… who cares? Let him. 'Cause I was the one who wanted to fasterisk him, and I was the one who made the choice. If he feels like he’s the man, then, fine, whatever. Let him think he’s in charge. I’m the one *actually *in charge. And I know it.
Maybe he thinks he’s the fisherman, but he’s the fish.
True that. And it would be awesome if more women would let go of their victimhood and neediness and do just that. But obviously the OP is not there yet, and while I am philosophically totally OK with everyone making their own mistakes, I also see no harm in giving some obvious pointers.
After all, humans are almost unique in their ability to learn from others mistakes, even though we are incredibly reluctant to do so for some reason.
Hmm… actually I think I still have some hang ups in that area that were just exposed by your post, Martian Bigfoot. Turns out I had some emotional investment in the “Women are frail and need to be protected from men” meme. Thanks for bringing that to the surface, much appreciated. 
My pleasure entirely, my good man. 
Well, how do we know she isn’t? Let’s try it.
Hey, Marlyn: Let go of your victimhood and neediness!
There. Let’s see if it works.
If this thread is good for one thing, it’s that we can all pull together and heal.
Perhaps the OP is a good Christian, for did not the Lord say unto us, "Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men”?
I just can’t see how it wouldn’t work. Marlyn, listen to the nice Martian with the big feet.
That’s TWO things! You ruined the whole thread with your inability to count!!
Dammit!
Does it involve a bobber?
Yes, and a piece of cod.
Waaaaait a minute here … y’all aren’t actually talking about fishing, are you?
I see through your clever double-entendre! You can’t fool me!
Men are like fish.
The small one you throw back
The medium ones you eat
And the really big ones you mount
It’s Monday! I’m going to pretend this is not fiction.
If Mary goes through with the date - will she:
anal/oral/kiss-n-tell us?
Marlyn and Cobalt, sitting in a tree,
a-n-a…
…srterisk.