"A-Ha!" Moments: Have you ever felt smart and stupid at the same time?

I’m working on applying Group Policies to the Domain at work, and one of the policies sets a screensaver with password protect (yeah, I’m that guy). :slight_smile:

Anyways, I’ve got to roll it back for a limited number of instances, and I just couldn’t get it to roll back. I finally figured out why - it’s a User policy, and I’ve been manipulating computer objects to try to roll it back (and thus failing - I’m just unaccustomed to applying user policies, I guess). Seems pretty obvious, but I hammered at this for about half an hour before figuring it out. :rolleyes:

So how about you, fellow Dopers? Ever have an “A-Ha!” moment when you felt smart and stupid at the same time?

Very often, it is a semi-constant in the software world. I find it especially happens when I am using a new tool. I can waste 30-45 minutes easily on a problem and then when I find it, :smack: , I realize how simple the problem was and see some new uses for the fix to the problem.

Jim

I’m the mother of a teenager. More often than you think!

Yes, last night when I was wracking my brain trying to follow the control logic on a less than adequately labeled panel, when all it took was pushing the big blue “reset” button on the motor control panel.

I try to console myself with the thought that I had, at least, pushed the big *red * “reset” button on the other panel, but still. D’oh!

In 2003, I bought the VHS of No Doubt’s concert in Orange county, where they’re from, “Live in the Tragic Kingdom.” (the album came out in 1995.) The intro to the show has a fairy superimposed over a crowd shot, flying around, and the fairy dust settles into the title “Live ion the Tragic Kingdom” and I thought to myself “Hey, that’s sorta like Tinker Bell… Oh, hell.”

Yes, it took me eight years to figure out that the Orange County’s “Tragic Kingdom” was a reference to Orange County’s “Magic Kingdom.”

And yes, I’d even heard the last song of the album, that uses the “remain seated please” warning from the Matterhorn.

It happens to me, though not all that often. I’ve been doing computer stuff for a while and I learned a long, long time ago that you always start at the begining and assume nothing*. Doing that usually gets me past the stupid AHA! moments. But not always.

A couple days ago one of our clients system was down. I mean totally down. They could not use the system to do business. Another woman I work with handed it off to me after staying about 3 hours late and still not getting the problem fixed. She was working with the senior developer on this. So I took over and was working with the senior dev and I had a random idea after about an hour. I went to checked my idea and when I did the software blew an error that totally pointed to the underlying problem**. After that we had the problem fixed in about 5 minutes. The client was down for about 10 hours and numerous developers worked on the problem before getting to our senior dev so I wasn’t the only person who missed something that should have been found sooner. Everyone who worked on that pretty much felt like idiots even though the error the software was giving in no way pointed to the underlying problem.

Slee

*Assume nothing. If someone tells you they checked X,Y and Z, check X,Y and Z again because they could be wrong. Or lying.

**A file had a broken index. The software was blowing up during a routine that wrote to the file, but only to note that the routine had started. The software just hung at that point, no error at all. They had reindexed the file earlier but that did not fix it. We killed the index and created a new one and all was cool. The senior dev was not at all happy that the routine did not handle the error correctly and the guy who wrote the code is now busy fixing the routine to handle errors correctly.

Only every day of my life…

This made me feel smart for about 1/2 a millisecond, then stupid until… well, I still feel stupid about it.

The Saturn car company has been around for, what, 15 years? 18 years? I’ve always seen the logo- red square with white swoopy lines through it- and thought “abstract design”. About a month ago I was sitting at a light, behind a Saturn, kind of mindlessly staring at the logo. Then it hit me.

It’s Saturn, the planet. With rings.
:smack: :smack: :smack:

In my college days I shared a house for a couple of years with an art major and a woman who taught pre-school part time. As a result, there were all kinds of arts-n-crafty things laying around on our coffee table.

One afternoon I was smoking out of a small pipe which got too clogged up to use. I scrambled around for something to remedy the situation. Nothing really worked well. I tried a paper clip, a tooth pick and a few other things. Then I looked down and saw the perfect thing. I was so pleased with myself because it worked so well. It was almost as if they made them just for that use.

“Yep,” I said to myself, “the next time I am in the market I have to buy myself some of these…pipe cleaners.”

Uh, yeah, I guess that’s how they got that name. :smack:

:o It took me years to realize that the Honda logo is an H. :smack:

Many years ago, my GF and I (she’s now my wife) were visiting her best friends place. Now, these people have always been (and are still today) on the cutting edge of technology. If there was a geeky gadget, program, or thing that ever became popular, I could rest assured that these folks had it, and a year earlier than anyone else.

I always felt I had to be on my toes around them, just to keep up and not appear hopelessly behind the times. This one time, after discussing new computers and such, my wife’s best friend mentioned that on Sunday, they were going apple picking.

“What’s apple picking…?” I said, trying hard to imagine which Steve Jobs-ian device they were shopping for.

I never have lived that one down.

I was on auto-pilot the other day, doing Yet Another Middle + Position text-parsing operation.

Middle is a common tool, you see it in Excel and other places as well as FileMaker; the structure is Middle(Text, Start, Size), so you have those three clauses with Text being a field or an expression that reconciles to be a blob of text and then Start and Size being numbers — how many characters deep into Text to start from and how many characters from that point onward to include.

Position is Position (Text, String, Start, Occurrence) and returns a number for how many characters deep into Text the String is found if you start off at Start and count to the Occurrence (first, second, nineteenth, whatever).

Simple, no?

I do this all the time. There are two obvious variants ‚ the one for snagging a single value (e.g., the first value in the set) and the one for walking through each value in turn within a looping script. Here’s the simple single-value formulation:

Set Variable [$Values2Parse, “¶” & ValueListItems(Get(FileName), “RelatedLineItems”& “¶”)
Set Variable [$Value_I_Want, Middle($Values2Parse, Position($Values2Parse, “¶”, 1, 1)+1, Position($Values2Parse, “¶”, 1, 2)-Position($Values2Parse, “¶”, 1, 1)-1)

And here’s the slightly different formulation for walking through values in a loop:

Set Variable [$Values2Parse, “¶” & ValueListItems(Get(FileName), “RelatedLineItems”& “¶”)
Set Variable [$Pos, 1]
Loop
Exit Loop If [$Pos + 1 > PatternCount ($Values2Parse, “¶”)]
Set Variable [$Value_I_Want, Middle($Values2Parse, Position($Values2Parse, “¶”, 1, $Pos)+1, Position($Values2Parse, “¶”, 1, $Pos+1) - Position($Values2Parse, “¶”, 1, $Pos) - 1)]
<do stuff with that value>
Set Variable [$Pos, $Pos + 1]
End Loop

So day before yesterday I spent 40 minutes trying to figure out why the values I was getting out of one of those looping-script versions was all bollixed up. Kept opening the script and looking at it. Looked totally normal. Here’s what I saw, or rather looked at but didn’t see:

Set Variable [$Value_I_Want, Middle($Values2Parse, Position($Values2Parse, “¶”, 1, $Pos)+1, Position($Values2Parse, “¶”, 1, $Pos+1) - Position($Values2Parse, “¶”, 1, 1) - 1)]

Well, folks… both versions work fine in their respective contexts, but a hybrid of the two…yeesh! :smack:

You get to the point you can write them without having to think about them, then you quit thinking about what you’re doing when you write them, and also don’t really think about the meaning of what you’re looking at (“yeah, that looks normal, so what’s wrong?”). Bad autopilot brain, bad!

It took me years, well, okay, several months, to realize that the CMC is actually the Civic.

Uh, yeah…I know the feeling…

:smack:

Last time I felt that way was when I went to Home Depot. I have noticed all the Hispanics loitering nearby and I figured it was just a hangout for them, 'cause, dunno, lots of Hispanics are in construction? Then it hit me like a ton of bricks. They’re there because they’re hoping for jobs! D’oh!!

I was wondering through a feed-store one day and saw a stick with a handle on one end a some spikes on the other. So, as I felt the spikes to see how sharp they were with one hand and grasped the handle with my other hand, I learned, painfully and unequivocally, exactly what a cattle prod looks and feels like.

I lived in another city for many years. This, I believe, is the reason for what follows - after all I was just young when I first heard the name ‘Carlingwood’. It was the name of the local shopping centre. From time to time I’d ponder on the origins of the name - was it on the spot of the wood behind old Mr. Carling’s property perhaps?

I will NOT tell you how many years after university it was that the :smack: moment happened. Oh yes. The mall was indeed located at the corners of CARLING and WOODroffe Avenues.

In my defense, I was the first of my gang of friends-since-grade-school to figure it out - and everyone from there I’ve mentioned it to is also surprised.

Moral of the story? Familiarity breeds…uh…familiarity I guess.

Don’t feel bad. I DROVE my OWN Saturn for probably two years, staring every day at that logo, which was on the steering wheel, when one day I had that sudden realization as well.

Maybe that logo could be a little LESS abstract. :slight_smile:

Definitely do not get this until just now. Talk aobut feeling smart and stupid at the same time… :smack:

Brendon

I’ve got an “A-ha!” thats not so much smart, but at least now I feel better.

For years I heard the phrase “Madison Square Garden” and associated it with a square garden modified by the location Madison. It wasn’t until about 5 years ago that I realized that the location was really a garden modified by the location Madison Square.

I’d associated the “Square Garden” with televised prize fights, which, as I’m sure you all know, are conducted in a boxing ring also known as the “squared circle.” Somehow the two were connected in my mind.