[quote=“raventhief, post:59, topic:819154”]
Is this it?
[/QUOTE]Though, sorry - time frame is wrong. REelased n 2000.
[quote=“raventhief, post:59, topic:819154”]
Is this it?
[/QUOTE]Though, sorry - time frame is wrong. REelased n 2000.
I see an avatar! When did that happen?
If life is so bad then why are you still living?
A few hours ago ![]()
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21134240#post21134240
OOH something else the OP’s children will never have to worry about:
avatars on a message board
If you love life so much, why don’t you marry it?
Are you twelve?
When people hit me with an infantile and nonsensical question, I reply with something equally as infantile and nonsensical.
I don’t think it’s nonsensical nor infantile to wonder why, if life is an unending series of pain for you, why you are still slogging through it.
What are you trying to accomplish or convey with this sort of thread? Do you want us to argue you out of your misery? Agree that life is nothing but sorrow? Shrug and ignore it? What’s your purpose here?
Infantile and nonsensical are adjectives that describe your OP quite nicely.
If you relentlessly posted about hating your wife, someone (s) would suggest divorce. If you talked endlessly about how soul destroying your job is, you’d get suggestions to quit. If your family caused you even a fraction of the grief listed in your op against life and existence, you’d hear suggestions to cut ties with them.
If it is so relentlessly painful to you, then why is the question “infantile and nonsensical”?
I simply have no interest in suicide at the moment. That’s it. I did not choose to be here, so why should I have to inflict severe harm on myself in an attempt to escape?
All I want is for people to consider the truth in my views. To consider not dragging another soul down here to needlessy suffer and die.
I gave all your views consideration when I was a stupid teenager. Thank god I grew out of it.
This is a sad thread.
I don’t mind the entertainment industry doing it - I do mind the news industry doing it. No wonder so many people think we’re in the middle of a crime wave. Every story is someone getting shot or robbed somewhere. And if they can’t fill the hour then you see horrendous stories which turn out to have happened 2,000 miles away. If there isn’t enough crime and horror in the Bay Area to fill an hour, how about a few minutes for an in-depth deep dive into an important issue.
Availability is the principle that people think things they have heard about have higher probabilities of occurring - like airplane crashes, or murders versus suicide.
But cover real news and people will switch to reality shows, I suppose.
We get avatars now?
Most of the OP’s threads seem to be that way.
I’m going to pretend for a second that this question has been asked without being burdened by any of the other crap in this thread.
My answer to this is “I have no particular interest in creating this planet, for the simple reason that I have no interest in creating this planet. If I did have an interest in it - if creating it would let me be the tyrant god of it or something, then I’d do it promptly! But if I just get to create it and that’s it, nothing else happens to me, it doesn’t impact me at all either way, then why would I bother?”
This isn’t because I think that life sucks and therefore I should commit suicide immediately if not sooner. That’s stupid. It’s just that I have no vested interest in planetmaking.
You don’t feel like committing suicide? Great! I don’t think you should commit suicide either. And I certainly don’t want you thinking I’m pressuring you to.
However it’s worth noting that the fact you haven’t committed suicide annihilates your argument. If life was really that bad, you’d find a way to get out of it. But you don’t! Which proves it’s not, at least not for you, which means there’s hope for others! Yay!
Ah, but if you had never been born, maybe you would have agreed with him. Or something. It’s really quite confusing.
It seems preposterous, but David Benatar is a real philosopher who makes a serious case for this position. Perhaps it’s not ultimately all that profound, but it’s always good to challenge your gut intuition about something, especially when that gut intuition is so strong - obviously any evolved creature will have an extremely strong instinctive belief that existing is better than not existing.
Not quite the same, but I think the brilliant ethical philosopher Peter Singer is much more interesting and challenging on examining the value of life. If you find yourself in opposition to his views on an issue (as many do, rather violently!), read his ideas and arguments and try to refute them - whether you do so successfully or not, it will make you a smarter and wiser person.
I’m going to share my story, by way of illustrating (I hope) that I understand where you’re coming from.
My father was abusive, not sexually but physically. He would pick me up and throw me into walls. He would hit me. There was screaming. I never knew what triggered it, and I was the target child. I can still pop my arm out of my shoulder if I rotate it just the right way - leftover from being dangled and shaken enough times.
I was very depressed throughout my childhood. I was very depressed throughout college. Like you, I swore that I would never, ever have children. What was the point? Life was an endless series of pain and hardship. The truth is that I had my reasons for thinking so, and they were valid ones. Marcus, from what you’ve said, your reasons are valid too.
Life got better though. My life is better. It may seem impossible now. I’m sure it does, but it can happen. I eventually had children. You may want that someday. Be kind to yourself.