One. I have never seen before a thread so completely hijacked. Well done!
Two. Innocent until proven guilty is an important and wonderful principle. But it doesn’t mean we automatically disbelieve an accuser. Where there is smoke, there might actually be a fire.
Three. We have a higher threshold of disbelief when it comes to people we like.
Hard to believe Bill Cosby, with the comedy and the jello and the cute things kids say, would drug and rape women. Sean Hannity, the smarmy little fuck, not so much. I guess we want to think the people we like are people like us.
Four. This leads us to the disconnect. I find it hard to believe that Cosby, who I do not know, could do such a heinous thing like drug and rape women. Whereas I have very little trouble believing that 14 different women, whom I do not know, would do a heinous thing like make up a terrible story, publish lies and slander in order to get…I don’t even know what.
Nope, not joking or misinterpreted. What made it even worse was it wasn’t said in an “I did this horrible thing when I was younger/My behavior was awful/I am so sorry/I understand what I did was wrong” type of way. He posted it to brag and to then say how proud he was to have gotten away with it.
Well, if anyone knows where (s)he is, they’re free to share (via private message or otherwise) and I’ll be happy to contact law enforcement. (S)he may live – or the crimes committed may be – in a state with no statute of limitations on felonies.
The other “charter members” of the board should be ashamed to allow him/her to remain.
Andros, you should find it sad that you’d make a comment suggesting that I’m on a high horse for observing the board should have some standards and reject someone who’d brag about attempted rape, and yet have the audacity (by comparison) to take issue with use of the word “cunt” or “motherfucker”. Or am I wrong? (Please don’t post unless you’ve a rational and factual basis on which to disagree. I know how fond some people here are of staking out untenable ground and never surrendering because they believe their egos couldn’t withstand it. There are exceptions, of course.)
If you feel someone has broken the rules of the Board, and have sufficient evidence to support the claim, please report it to the moderators and/or the owners of the SDMB.
If you feel someone has broken a law, and have sufficient evidence to support the claim, please report it to appropriate law enforcement.
Eyebrows is the person who relayed the information. If it was posted here, one presumes that the relevant moderators saw it, or their attention was directed toward it.
“If you feel someone has broken a law, and have sufficient evidence to support the claim, please report it to appropriate law enforcement.”
Were you even paying attention to the subthread where I suggested to Eyebrows that (s)he’s free to relay information about where “Shagnasty” is located so that I could do precisely that?
“Do you have evidence of either of the above?”
See prior comment. If indeed Shagnasty bragged about attempted rape, that is direct (not circumstantial) evidence.
Andros, it may well be that you’re unfamiliar with criminal complaints are processed, but a person bragging about how (s)he committed (necessarily at least two) crimes (at least one of which would necessarily be a felony) is sufficiently “specific” to not only initiate an investigation but initiate a criminal charge (e.g., in this context, not merely reasonable suspicion but probable cause)(assuming the date of the act is sufficient to bring it within a statute of limitations, if applicable) (as stated, in a number of states a felony will have no statute of limitations).
First time I can recall he told the tale: April 2006
Second time I can find with a quick search: January 2007
Third time, the one that everyone seems to remember: September, 2007
The thing that really boggles my mind is that it’s basically a cut and paste job. So either he has this on his computer somewhere and he just cuts and pastes it every time he wants to trot it out again, or he’s so delighted in the tale he has it memorized. Lovely, eh?
I think he’s a loathsome excuse for a human being, but technically, nothing there breaks board rules, so I don’t think banning is appropriate, either. Letting all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out, by virtue of repeated exposure, so everyone knows exactly what kind of person we’re dealing with, that’s appropriate (and within my power, which banning isn’t).
Please clarify that you are not saying that when a woman makes a rape allegation that it is only to be taken as seriously as a UFO or Bigfoot sighting?
I’m pretty sure a false rape accuser killed kstarnes’ father.
Excuse me? I was conceived in rape and sexually abused by two stepfathers. I’m not going to be shamed for talking about coleslaw in a misogynist’s rape thread (though admittedly, I really wish we’d go back to the subject of peas. Nobody really gave peas a chance.) This is seriously one of the most beautiful things that has ever happened on this board and you will not taint it for me.
If we’re gonna shame anyone here, it’s asshats like kstarnes who can’t grok the difference between ‘‘reasonable doubt’’ and ‘‘ways sexual assault actually happen.’’
‘‘Women are such liars because nobody could possibly be forced to give a man a handjob’’ is not a real argument. It should not be taken seriously. It should not be dignified in any meaningful way. The fact that Dopers appear to be in nearly unanimous agreement on that subject warms my little victim heart tremendously.
There’s such a thing as an ethical breach of conduct even by Pit standards, but if something as innocuous as hijacking a troll’s stupid OP sets your heart aflutter, you’re in for some serious disappointment.
A fucking men.
Do we have a link to this? Because this is news to me, and WTF?
Spice, no one’s asking or telling you to be ashamed. You’re free to do as you like. Don’t mistake someone making a legitimate observation as an expectation or demand that someone be “ashamed”. (That you’d articulate/present the issue in this way should be meaningful to you, esp. given your history.)
“There’s such a thing as an ethical breach of conduct even by Pit standards, but if something as innocuous as hijacking a troll’s stupid OP sets your heart aflutter…”
There’s no reason to interpret what I’ve said as my heart being “set … aflutter.” I observed that one is in fact arguably still feeding the troll in the way (s)he desired, and the discussion about coleslaw could’ve been taken elsewhere.
C’mon, you served up a softball. Couldn’t help but hit it![/sub]