The fundamental problem is that many Iraqis don’t feel the Govt. is “neutral”. They think it’s an American puppet govt. Over coming the feeling is next to impossible.
Worth a shot? How many times have you taken a “stab” at something and it didn’t work out. Afterwards one usually utters “well, it was worth a shot”. we’re playing god here with peoples lives, there is no taking shots, we have to know exactly what the fuck we’re doing.
Killing terrorists is not “civil war”. That’s LAW AND ORDER. If the Iraqis killed every terrorist in the country it would not at all resemble the REAL civil war that Zarqawi has pledged to foment.
Sure you can. That’s what we did here in the America! After the American colonies won independence from Britain there were over 100K refugees that fled to Canada, Britain, and the Bahaman Islands. That was out of a population of about 500K. Our forefathers hanged loyalists. They had not patience with those unwilling to embrace, let alone tolerate the New America.
The terrorists may think they are on the right side but they aren’t delusional enough to believe their fighting for liberty…unless it is the liberty to oppress their fellow citizens. Those Iraqis who did well under Saddam or who want an Islamist state will have to change their minds, leave, or submit their bodies to fertilize the new Iraq. 90% of Iraqis are apparently in favor of a democratic Iraq. That’s plenty.
Wow! That’s really ignorant. The power system was totally decayed from Saddam’s subversion of the Oil-For-Food Program. Riverbend may talk about the terrible undependability of power, but what she knows and doesn’t say is that before the invasion, everyone outside of Baghdad only got a few hours of electricity each day.
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And I question the US’s definition of “Terrorists”. I personally think their definition is “anyone who is against their agenda”. What our fucking agenda happens to be I have no idea.
Or pehaps they thnk they’re fighting for their liberty.
That’s just total busllshit. Look at the polls that have been posted.
Yes it was, and we took out the remaining part of it. In addidtion to that we can’t even protect it from insurgents. The strongest military power in the world cant protect it, how will the Iraqis?
That should read “anyone against our agenda”.
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Those Americans! They roasted that kid and ate him with their fellow Zionist compatriots! They used his blood to make pastry!
How about killing the parents of six Iraqi kids and leaving them splattered with their parents’ blood? Or is that not hyperbolic enough for you?
It is really ignorant, but the ignorance isn’t mine.
Electricity output is down about 20 percent from before the war
However you slice it, less power is being produced, and it took us an unnaceptable ammount of time to get Baghdad anywhere near pre-war levels.
Anecdotal evidence of course, but I have a close friend who’s a contracter for Haliburton over there, and he says the infrastructre is shot to shit.
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So because of this, we should leave Iraq immediately, you’re going to let mistakes and accidents such as these dictate foreign policy now?
Quite literally, I’ll bet.
Saddam portioned out electricity based on loyalty so therefore places like Baghdad got 24 hour power, and places like Basra got next to none, after the war, we with our kind hearts, decided there had to be equal distribution of the electricity being generated. So this is why Baghdad gets blackouts, contributing with the sabotage and attacks on the power stations. Add this with a completely fucked up power system of distribution and outdated power stations, makes the situation worse.
OK, I’ve had enough. You wanna cite every single sentence in this post, please?
No because of this we shouldn’t be surprised that Iraqis might not like us as much as you think.
You see it as mistakes and accidents, they don’t view in as kind a light.
I’m sure if some mofo blew up wour family and went “uh oh spaghetti-O!” you wouldn’t take too kindly to it either.
Not bitching, bitchin’.
I agree otherwise. However, declaring war on something could also be seen as a big cry for attention, even bigger than saying “vote for me”.
Depends, is it the kind with the little meatballs, or just noodle rings in thin tomato sauce?
The water’s been out lately in parts of Baghdad too.
http://ir04.events.pennnet.com/content.cfm?Navid=1656&Language=
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/tribes.htm
I know, but to think people won’t get killed in an insurgency is tantamount to stupidity, I never rejected the notion that Iraqis would get pissed, lets all hope that the Coalition stops from making the same mistakes in the future.
Riverbend? Please. :rolleyes: If there isn’t anyone more biased than that woman, I haven’t met them. There are plenty of other people complaining about the water supply in their less than completely biased blogs.
Didn’t someone say a few posts ago “that’s war”?
As long as the fighting continues, incidents like this will continue. I would hope if we could magically prevent these sort of things from happening, we already would have.
Ryan, meet Ryan. 
Yes, it is war, it has bad concequences, but I don’t think the processes we’ve created in Iraq, such as their freedom to speak out, to choose what government they want, overall we’ve done the right thing.
How am I biased. Explain, I’m at loss of thought here, then explain to me, how you’re not biased, because I’m at a loss at that too