How many years ago are we talking? Before he bought Twitter? Before he blew up a rocket by launching it before it was ready because he wanted to launch it on 4/20? Before he tried to bribe his masseuse for a handjob? Before he deadnamed his trans child and declared she was dead to him? Before he smoked a blunt on Joe Rogan while firing employees who tested positive for weed? Before he threatened to fire his employees if they didn’t report to work in defiance of covid shutdowns? Before he called an expert cave diver a pedophile because nobody wanted his submarine that wouldn’t work? Before he emotionally abused all the mothers of his children? Before he had safety signs removed from his factories because he doesn’t like the color yellow? Before he sold the world on vacuum trains that he knew were physically impossible in order to stop California from investing in high-speed rail? Before he bought his way into Tesla, fired the founders, and claimed to have invented the tech himself?
The goalpost is “Don’t drive the Nazi car if you don’t want people to think you’re a Nazi and don’t give Nazis plausible deniability by driving the Nazi car if you aren’t one”.
You are trying very very hard to accuse people who currently own Teslas which they bought years ago, of being morally lacking, because they did not have the precognition to foresee that Musk would become an overt fascist and become Trump’s anti-government hatchet man in 2025.
The problem is, that basically applies to anyone who runs a company and back then he didn’t stand out. Buying a different brand of car, the CEO will still be an awful person. Buy a bike instead, the manufacturer will be run by yet another awful person. Decide to walk instead, your shoes were probably made by a company run by awful people.
You can’t avoid giving money to horrible people in a society built to elevate awful people and funnel money to them.
And I’m saying that you’re assuming perfect information on the part of the consumer. That doesn’t exist, so you should probably recalibrate your Nazimiter.
Yeah. To use myself as an example up until he bought Twitter I knew virtually nothing about him outside of him being a typical techbro jerk; if I’d bought a Tesla before then it would have been totally unrelated to his to-me unknown politics. And I’m sure that many or most of the people who bought Teslas back then likewise had little to no knowledge of him. Not everyone has spent the last 30 years of their life following Elon Musk.
Sure, things are different now…but that’s now. Not then.
Not necessarily true. Carmakers, not just Tesla but certainly trailblazed by them, have been attempting to shift to a subscription model, specifically so they can get a piece of this secondary market. Consider that new BMWs, for just one example, have all the bells and whistles installed on the car, but you need to sign up and pay a recurring fee to “unlock” them so they’re usable. This is true for the original owner, and then it is true for the next owner when the car is resold. Without this subscription, it’s just a minimally functional roller skate. Similarly, the buyer of a used Tesla is not acquiring all the features the seller enjoyed; the fees continue after purchase.
This is not to say your argument is strengthened or that you’re not being an asshole in this thread. You’re being difficult and unreasonable and pigheaded and stupid, and you should stop.
On top of that, you’re also factually wrong on the point above.
And Og help you if you still find Daisy Duke hot or the General Lee a bitchin’ ride…
I should apologize in advance by admitting my 2008 CR-V was probably made in Canada, or Mexico, or both, but maybe assembled someplace else other than CA, which would make me a Trudeau supporter (sacre bleu!) or worse, a supporter of cocaine dealers and illegals. There’s also the eight pairs of Nikes that show I support slave labor in China, I suppose…
There’s also the eight pairs of Nikes that show I support slave labor in China, I suppose…