Crazy Trump supporters

Politics & Elections
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Had an interesting start to my day.

Standing outside waiting for the door to be unlocked at work, someone made an observation about the price of gas being low.

One of the older ladies, nice enough in passing but not someone I spend much time around, said, “It will get lower.”

Ok, guy said, “Because it’s the end of summer?”

She said no, and started saying that Trump will bring them down when he’s back in office. Then she said everything we see is just a movie, that the military is secretly in control of the government now waiting for Trump’s return.

At that point I scampered in the door.

I’m not even sure how that is supposed to make Trump sense. I mean, if Trump is secretly in control via the military, then why is he complaining about everything that’s going on? I guess he’s creating all the turmoil to justify his return, so he can swoop in like a savior?

Except if he’s manipulating things to be bad to justify his reelection, then those who know the secret will know he’s not really a savior, right? So that makes him some sort of comic book villain, right?

So I’ve heard some Trumpers talking some weird shit. Calling Harris a communist, etc. Memes hitting my Facebook like “Don’t let a Cackling Kamala near the nuclear codes.” (Hate to break it to them but she’s already had that responsibility.)

But I was not expecting the Qanon Conspiracy this morning.

"NOBODY EXPECTS THE QANON CONSPIRACY! "

So what’s the weirdest comment or observation about Trump you’ve encountered?

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Weirdest observations about Trump that I’ve seen is the predictions of some Trumpers how the election would go in November 2020. Prior to election day, there were comments online in utter and total seriousness that Trump would capture 70% of the popular vote and carry New York and California. (This was on an LSU Tigers message board that leaned heavily Republican).

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And you came here to preach to the converted, instead of telling her she was the right-wing nutjob the rest of the civilized world fears, then walk away. She doesn’t need to know any different because nobody tells her to her face.

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“If the president sets the price of gas, that means the low price we have today is the work of President Biden. Thanks, Joe.”

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I’m pretty lucky as I don’t have to deal with these nut jobs. Mostly. I work from home.

There are now three couples that live on this road. All DINKS. One couple and my wife and I are good friends. Then another couple moved in down the road. I decided to have a dinner party for the six of us.

Get to know the new couple. Be neighborly and all that.

Oh boy, the wife in this new couple went and on and on about how horrible ‘Woke’ is. We could not get a word in edgewise. Seriously, she would, not, allow anyone to speak. The new couple left first. Our long time friends hung around for a but.

The comment from the wife of our long time friends was “What in the hell was that?”

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Normally a Dem => Pub transition would lower energy prices but Biden has been very open to drilling and coal mining so this may be the exception if Trump wins in 2024.

Yes, I’m sure someone has made a movie like that. Surely she didn’t mean that that is happening for real. Right? RIGHT?!

I learned growing up in the 70’s and 80’s that every Democrat is a communist so that checks.

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It was a work situation, or near enough. I didn’t initiate or engage in political talk. Her comment was out of left field. I try not to talk politics at work because if I tell her off, that can become an HR issue, especially since I’m nominally a manager.

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I think you did the right thing, under the circumstances. As you point out, you don’t want to elevate this to an HR issue.

These sorts of interactions are the ones I put under the silent, mental heading of, “Duly noted.”

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I’m not sure I’d even count that as just a crazy Trump supporter, so much as just totally crazy. I mean:

If everything is just a movie, then why do you think you have any idea of what’s going on behind the scenes as it were.

Of course, it ties into a concurrent thread about Project Lucifer and other CT theories. These people want to be able to claim to be special, to have secret knowledge that other people don’t want you to know. They’re the ones secretly in control, especially if they feel they otherwise don’t have a lot of control of their lives.

This particular CT theory seems a two-fer. They get to claim secret knowledge, and simultaneously devalue all of your knowledge. Ugh.

But, I do agree that walking away from it (especially at work) is the smartest option. Too many risks to your own position to deal with someone so far out that they are already stating that objective reality doesn’t exist.

That’s the point where there isn’t any possibility of reasoning them back, because they can excuse ANYTHING by pointing out it’s a movie.

Walk away QUICKLY. And make a note of a dangerous person, because if they truly believe that (not trolling) then they have no reason to treat you or anyone else as real. That way lies shootings, especially if the script doesn’t go according to plan.

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I left a trucking firm partially because that kind of right-wing nonsense happened and was silently “duly noted” but never acted on, and eventually became standard because nobody wanted to rock the boat. “Not rocking the boat” is the reason Covenant Trucking had a “Its A Child Not A Choice” poster in big letters officially on the back of their trailers.

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And then there’s this bunch of religious nutjobs who are part of a church in rural NC, who all believe that God has chosen Trump as their savior. They follow him to a lot of his rallies, gushing over him from the audience. They resemble something straight out of The Stepford Wives.

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The woman was clearly full-on delusional, probably senile. He’d have had just as much impact if he went to an insane asylum and explained to the residents why they’re mistaken.

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When it’s a question of one’s livelihood, I’m far more forgiving than you, I guess. To me, the failure is on management in the circumstance you describe, not the individual who failed to speak up.

Frankly, if management is so willing to go along with such bullshit, then it was a lost cause from the start. You made the right choice to leave.

As for speaking up in ways that can make a difference, I’m proud to be the person who fought and succeeded in bringing meaningful union representation to my place of employment back in the day, fiercely opposed by management.

I also instigated a campaign to get rid of a CEO who was serially sexually harassing employees who (excuse the expression) worked under him. Despite recommendations by the state investigating body to can the guy, the bosses decided to keep him so as to avoid public embarrassment. So then I took it to the press. After being named publicly as the person who was responsible for the investigation, I knew my days there were numbered, so I did what you did: I found a new job.

Please don’t mistake calculated prudence in a situation for cowardice.

ETA: TL;dr, pick your battles.

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The more I live, the more I feel I’m a video game character in a universe populated 99% by rudimentarily programmed NPCs. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me.

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We don’t how sane she was, but we do know that he had some influence on her when he didn’t answer back.

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I would prefer a poster that said “It’s a child not a zygote. Yes, we’re insane!”

As for crazy Trumpists, I recall an interview with Trump supporters sometime in 2021 after Biden’s inauguration. One old geezer who insisted Trump had won the election, when asked how he knew that, said because Trump was still president, even now still flying around on Air Force One.

It’s really hard to have a conversation with devout Trump supporters, and bad for one’s mental health.

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I had a non-Trumpist (but somewhat conspiracy-minded) friend speculate recently that gas prices were dropping because of politics and the upcoming election.

But the real answer is indeed the end of summer, just like every year as the refiners switch from the more-expensive summer blend to the cheaper winter blend. The summer blend is more resistant to epavoration (which makes it less likely to contribute to air pollution such as smog), but this is a detriment in the cold winter months.

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If we abused, manipulated, and deceived The Most Vulnerable Americans in the same way Trump and the MAGA machinery does, we’d likely be guilty of crimes that offend the conscience.

At the very least, we’d be pilloried before decent people everywhere as the execrable people that we are.

But demagogues gonna’ demagogue, amirite?

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I knew that summer and winter blends were different but I didn’t know the production cost of summer blend was higher. I assumed higher prices in summer were entirely due to demand.

Interesting typo in the article:

“Because in the colder temperatures, it will then be easier for the vehicle to start and ignore that fuel.”

I assume “ignore” is supposed to be “ignite”. :smiley:

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trump himself did that. He wanted to call her a Marxist, but then he said nobody knows what that is.

I met a woman who said trump was the Second Coming.