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It is a source of great anxiety to me, that a great deal of the world’s affairs, America’s economy, the success of Russian and Chinese aggression, the fate of political parties, etc…can all depend on what is happening inside one man’s head, specifically Donald J. Trump.
He’s the president, not the emperor. He doesn’t have THAT much power. :rolleyes:
Cite? I know you’ve been accused of ignorance, hypocrisy, and putting partisanship ahead of civil rights but I recall no accusations against you of racism, bigotry, self-hating, nor other inaccurate insults.
What does any of this have to do with what I asked? If you want to discuss this topic, please start a new thread. My plea was for Trump supporters and conservatives to please be wary for a dark element among the supporters of Trump. You can ignore this if you wish.
This attitude is the fault of the Democrats not the Republicans. When you compare your opponents constantly to fascists and say they are racists and bigot, some people are not going to realize that is just campaign talk and actually believe it. These people are going to be scared that what the Democrats tried to use to scare them into voting is actually true. So the idea that we got these people scared and now it is someone else’s responsibility to calm them down is irresponsible.
The OP is just insulting. We live in a country where Obama was elected twice and there were no riots, yet the day after Trump is elected demonstrators are committing arson and vandalism in the streets. Yet, somehow it is conservatives who need to be alert for dark elements.
Please feel free to direct any similar concerns at liberals if you wish. That’s certainly a reasonable conversation to have.
And feel free to ignore my plea if you have zero concern for white supremacism among Trump supporters. I hope you’re right that there is no significant element of white supremacism among any significant number of Trump supporters, and I hope my fears are unwarranted.
More than that, I think the thing that the SDMB (and left-leaning Democrats in general) overlook or don’t understand is that there’s kind of a hierarchy of sins & bad behaviors in most people’s minds, and that hierarchy is NOT the same for everyone. And everyone’s tolerance for various things on that hierarchy is different as a result.
For example, on here, describing someone as a racist or bigot is close to the worst thing you can say about someone. Calling them a liar or dishonest isn’t considered nearly such a horrible thing. Put differently, someone coming into a thread and referring to “niggers” instead of blacks or african-americans would be far more vilified than someone who came in and just lied outright.
But out in the wider world, that’s not necessarily so. A whole lot of people hold to the idea that being dishonest is a far greater failing than being racist, and are more willing to tolerate casual racism than they are what they perceive as dishonesty. Their conception of what’s WRONG is different- to them, lying and being dishonest, especially in positions of public trust is far worse than any racism shy of a candidate wearing their KKK hoods to their victory ball.
It’s not that they support racism, it’s that they call people out for different things.
I’m pretty sure it isn’t the Democrats who were spraypainting swastikas and “Make America White Again” graffiti yesterday. It isn’t Democrats who are openly subjecting minority friends of mine to bigoted abuse, nor are they the ones telling a friend of my wife that it’s now okay to shout at women walking by about “grabbing their pussy” because “This is America!”.
This shit is happening. It’s a very small minority but it’s a very nasty one, and one that now feels that all those nasty views have just been legitimized. The OP is right to be concerned, and the people those views are aimed at are right to be wary.
They are. They’re about as unwarranted as fears about lizard people so don’t worry. 
While most white supremacists favored Trump, it’s a fallacy to think that it means that most people who favored Trump were white supremacists.
Where did I say that most people who favored Trump were white supremacists?
It does involve expanding mine.
I think of misogyny as someone who has a dislike for or contemptuous view of women. In Trump’s case he’s just a crude self-entitled jerk who likes sex and when he sees someone whom he’s attracted to he tries to get some.
If he saw something a man had that he wanted he would try to get some of that too - or if he was gay he might try grabbing men’s crotches - and it wouldn’t make him a misandrist. But it just happens to be that women have a lot of what he want, and his position as billionaire TV star gave him opportunities in that direction.
I think that sort of behavior demonstrates contempt, which fits the definition. I think the kind of entitlement that leads one to believe they can touch people in intimate ways without their consent (or the assumption that they all want such touching) can fairly be characterized as contempt.
But that’s just arguing about word definitions.
The OP concern is that they will feel validated/enabled to act out more openly.
But the point is that I don’t think he looks at women differently than men other than the fact that he happens to be sexually attracted to one and not the other.
That’s possible, though even if that’s true that’s not an excuse, IMO. I think contempt can be wrapped up with sexual attraction.
Not to mention street mobs beating up suspected Trump voters.
Of course not. But the issue here is what he thinks of women who he doesn’t happen to have a personal connection to and sexual attraction to.
How do you know this wasn’t just a robbery? That was even mentioned in the article. Most seem more interested in what’s in the car than beating on the man.
The fact that people were yelling about the guy having voted for Trump is something of a hint. Very similar to people attacking black people while yelling racial slurs.
But the truth is you never know for sure, and people can have a mixture of emotions and motivations.
But further to puddleglum’s point, check out some of the pictures of various anti-Trump riots. Now imagine these things happening in the aftermath of an Obama election victory. How do you interpret them then?
Interesting how clear the audio is and yet, no traffic sounds, so sounds of the blows landing, the victim is strangely quiet yet the attackers are clear despite the distance.
You linked to Infowars. That’s automatically suspect.
You also seem to forget all the violence from Trump supporters towards protestors. You don’t have much outrage there.