A Question for Xash (or any Mod) re: a GQ decision

So back off for a while. I don’t think most of the people involved in these threads have developed any lasting dislike for you or anything. You’ve just managed to irritate them, and they are telling you so. There are plenty of posters here who got off to a rough start, Desmostylus or Q.E.D. for example. They dealt with the problems and moved on. Perhaps you can too.

As a matter of fact I find this situation to have some similarities with the one Aries 28 faced with her husband. Someone, read the blog about a dream, and then made certain conclusions regarding her actual character. In the same way some of you are attempting to extrapolate my character based simply upon questions that I post on a board. I have made it virtually a “prime directive” since the time I entered school as a child never to try and be popular by “saying the right things” or fitting in with “the right group”. Instead, I have tried to dedicate myself to an uncompromising quest for knowledge, truth, and understanding without regard to what the “social” consequences might be. A question asked in sincere curiosity is never wrong, and I would give my very life in the defense of that principal. Part of me wants to tell the lot of you to blow off, but on further examination I won’t give my critics the satisfaction.

You dreamt of fucking a random stranger?

They then started a GQ thread entitled “When you have dreams about fucking random strangers, is it really…”?

That’s the general idea.

You are succeeding admirably.

So instead you drone on about KC Masterpiece BBQ flavoring?

About BBQ sauce?

No more invites to the National BBQ Association Annual BBQ-Fest?

No, but the answer may be.

Don’t hold back on account of us.

So… instead you’ll just keep boring the ever-loving motherfucking shit out of everybody with more ruminations on the finger’ lickin’ good taste of pre-KC Masterpece BBQ Flavored Baked Lays?

IJSA lung, on one hand I’m a bore because I am sincerely curious about what happened to my favorite, all time, chip. However, on the other I might be a dangerous, subversive because I raise questions about a chemical we used in a genetics class experiment (by the way I’ll have to let my former chemistry professor know that some people think he should be viewed with caution due to his heavy water comment in class) ? Which is it am I boring or a dangerous subversive?

That was one lame-assed, pointless post, Ilsa. Well done. :rolleyes:

Ummm…huh? I don’t recall a particularly rough start here. What’s this, now? I’m just curious what you meant here, no big deal, really. :slight_smile:

If I might offer a couple of suggestions:
[ul]
[li]Learn the nuances of each forum. It’ll make things easier on everybody.[/li][li]Do some Googling or other searching before you post your questions.[/li][li]You might want to consider posting more than one of your “stored up” questions per thread.[/li][/ul]

On another note: If you’re getting a lot of complaints from a lot of different people about your behavior, you might want to consider that they may have a point. Thumping the “I am an individual; I don’t care about fitting in; I stand for Truth” drum is all well and good, but there are usually ways to get questions answered without violating social mores too much.

Heh. My nephews are bright enough, but I believe that you’ve put your finger on the problem…they’re intellectually lazy. They don’t want to exert themselves enough to think through a problem or look it up.

On the one hand, intellectual curiosity is good. Asking questions can be good. But on the gripping hand, learning how to do your own research is even better. I do a lot of Googling each day, just out of idle curiosity. By doing this, I learn much, much more than I ever would if I simply asked questions on the SDMB. If I’m truly stumped (usually because I don’t know how to frame the proper search terms) then I’ll gladly post a question. But I would feel ashamed of myself if I didn’t make a good faith effort to first find the answer myself.

Hunter,

Yes I need to learn more about the various forums. Sometimes, on this board as in real life my attitude is Bill O’Reilly like (can you please be quite so I can listen to myself talk for awhile)!

Sometimes, I have an idea as to the answer (either from Google or previous knowledge). However, I am looking for other perspectives on the issue. For instance with the “mutagen question” it may well be that what will cause fruit flys to have mutant babies will not reliably induce cancer in humans. On the other hand it may be that criminals and script writers have already employed this technique (and dare I suggest the government might use it also, after all we know that the former Soviet Union used poisons like Ricin to commit assasinations and our own goverenment probably tried to kill Castro, what better way than to give someone a chronic disease, it gives new meaning to the term plausible deniability for the CIA et al). Also, someone offered that heavy water wasn’t even poisoness (or only mildly so) if true it’s something that even my PhD Chemistry 112 teacher didn’t even know!

Also, Lynn in regards to your question about my asking questions about illegal activities. It does touch upon a real issue in my personality. I have a natural aversion to authority. Since I was a little boy, when someone said “do this” my natural response was “but can you make me?”. I distinctly, remember as a child when Ronald Reagan announced that we would never negociate with terrorists (I think he was talking about the Achilles Lauro hijacking, but it could have been the Iran hostage situation, it’s been a long time), thinking “that is a good philosophy to live by, never do anything because of threats of force”. I actually would sometimes tell my parents “if you want something you will have to ask politely because like Reagan I don’t respond to threats.” (this resulted in harsh consequences, but my point was made). The bottom line is that I do have a problem with nonconformity and must constantly “suppress” my natural desire to “talk back” even as a thirty five year old student! In the Navy it was actually an asset in my Navy EOD team (and if you think the EOD guys have non conformist attitudes you should meet some of the SEAL’s that I’ve known. Many of THOSE guys have real attitudes and it was almost encouraged).

You’re really sad. No nookie, no respect, no credibility, and no love. If not for the fact that everyoneone else on the planet was wrong, you’d be confused. Let me know when you give a sermon on making friends, and having people like you.

So is that supposed to make me less sad? You are also partially wrong, I do have a few friends, and sometimes I do believe that my wife loves me. In fact, we occasionally have sex ( of course then I pester her about the possibility that she might be pregnant until she has her next period)! Also, I don’t think that everyone else is wrong, I just think it should be up for intellectual debate.

Well, I’m just taking a guess here, but in my case it’d be for kicking heads in GQ. With you, I’d be guessing the cookie incident where you were temporarily banned?

Yeah, a real clash of the cultures there Desmostylus. Q.E.D. had a brief flirtation with trying to answer every question in GQ, every day, regardless of whether he actually knew the answer. Had he also suffered from the curse of being a self proclaimed “nonlinear thinker,” I doubt he still be with us.

That is where teaching interferes. You can use their habit of asking such questions to teach them how to develop independant thinking. Hence the questions they ask furfill a goal.

The same here. You can even use this example to teach the whole class what happens if someone doesn’t pay attention to your lessons or doesn’t use his brain the way one should expect him to use it.
I would first of all let the student explain why he didn’t pay attention. Next he should explain why he thinks that this habit is subject of interest for the whole class, in such a way that he finds it normal to disrupt the lesson with a question he could answer himself easily if he was paying attention. Next I would ask him if he finds nothing wrong with exposing his distraction and/or lazyness to everyone.
I am about sure that this would make him think about his behaviour and a lot of others with him.

Salaam. A

Ditto.

Plus, let’s face it, some questions are just stoopid. It was either Heinlein or Spider Robinson who, when told “There’s no such thing as a stupid question.” replied “Oh yeah? ‘Can you go through a revolving door with skis on?’” and pretty much won the argument. :stuck_out_tongue:

A few more that I can think of:

Can you saw through concrete with half-melted ice-cream?
Can you make chocolate flavored steel?
How up is green?
What have I got in my pocket?*
etc.

Fenris

*Outside of this context of course: Nassty little Bagginsis! We hates it! We hates it forever!!"

Dude, I don’t know you, but if you’re doing this in every thread, regardless of topic, it’s no wonder you’re getting on people’s nerves.

What does the phrase “Too much information” mean to you?

Do you do this all the time?
Person 1: Sure is a beautiful day
Person 2: Ayup, but I hear tell it’s gonna rain.
Roland: Did I mention that my wife and didn’t have sex last night? Yeah, she was having her period, so I masturbated. Twice! :slight_smile:
Persons 1 & 2 back slowly away

I personally don’t care about your sex life, and I double-don’t-care about your wife’s periods or the lack thereof. Feel free to open an appropriately titled thread where you can share details of your and your wife’s sex life to your heart’s content. Best of both worlds. You can share your intimate personal crap with anyone who wants to and I’ll happily ignore it.

My god, it’s so fucking easy.

This is exactly whatr I was talking about when I said:

Surely you can see that what you are describing here–and what I agree is sometimes called for–is humiliating a child for asking a stupid queston? It’s not an answer at all, and it sends the mesage that some questions shouldn’t have been asked. That it is, in fact, discouraging children from asking certain questions? My point was that sometimes it is appropriate to do this, and we seem to agree on that point. This is in contrast to your statement:

Which seems to say that one should never discourage questions, nor fail to answer them when they are asked.

For the record, stopping a lesson for a five minute sarcastic public humiliation scene is worth it with some kids, but with others it is overkill (your routine would send some from the room crying) and would have no effect on others–some kids look at gettting the teacher off track for any length of time as a personal victory, no matter what. With the ones in the middle, it can be worth the time spent. With others, your more likely to be effective by ignoring them and continuing the class until they figure it out, and with others, it’s best to give them a hint about the method they need (i.e., “look it up in the table of contents”) It’s different with every kid, butit comes to the same thing–sometimes, to teach best, you have to discourage questions.

Well, I’ll tell you, Roland. Your automatic aversion to authority and your ingrained desire to go against what you perceive as accepted wisdom both raise red flags in my mind about someone who wants to be a nurse. Your personality as it comes across in your posts raises doubts in my mind about what your bedside manner would be like. If my nurse chose to argue with authority about my treatment, I would like that to be because experience, knowledge, and training led to sensible, reasoned, and cogent disagreement, not because of a prideful desire to think outside the box.

There are many professions in which non linear thinking is a positive boon, or at least a harmless eccentricity. I’m not sure that nursing is one of them.

On the bright side, you do seem fully aware that it will take hard work for you to be a good nurse, and you seem to be willing to put forth the effort. That’s a good thing, and I hope it works out for you. I really do. I’m just not sure that nursing was the best career choice for you based on what I’ve seen here, that’s all. If you can become a good nurse, and being a good nurse makes you happy, then more power to you.

Good examples, Fenris. But I still maintain that in another context, the question might not be stupid.

I hold with the maxim: “There are no stupid questions, but stupid people do ask questions.”

On another front, I do at times think outside the box when it comes to patient care. However, I do it with 20 years of clinical experience behind me, and only after realizing that the options inside the box don’t offer the solutions that I or my patients need.