A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

Republicans have been salivating over Peter Strzok and how he’s an evil liberal who was hellbent on getting Clinton elected and taking down Trump. Trump even went so far as to accuse him of treason in a recent interview.

Emails now show that Strzok supported re-opening the Clinton investigation and even wrote the first draft of the letter that Comey sent congress.

Maybe he was just a guy trying to do his job.

Their conspiracy against Trump was really, really poorly executed.
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If you can’t trust legal advice from a 29 year old model with three years of experience being Trump’s press secretary, who can you trust to keep you out of prison?

Hey! Not fair! She probably watched all 5,000 episodes of the original Law & Order like I did, which is the way to get as good as a law degree without all the expense and hours in the library.

So, consciousness of guilt?
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“Mueller Zooms In on Trump Tower Cover Story”

Because the Dope is always firstest with the bestest, some of us may be getting calls from Mueller, as a few of us were present at that meeting.

Apparently Devin Nunes altered the memo he sent to the White House to review for release

@RepAdamSchiff

BREAKING: Discovered late tonight that Chairman Nunes made material changes to the memo he sent to White House – changes not approved by the Committee. White House therefore reviewing a document the Committee has not approved for release.

link contains a letter to Nunes asking: wtf dude?

I’m no Gorsuch fan by any stretch, but just FWIW, I don’t see Gorsuch as being in the bag for Trump. I think Gorsuch is his own guy. He’s always been pretty hard right. He just hadn’t said or done anything so outrageous as to draw major scrutiny. He’s a lifetime appointment, so there’s no need for him to have loyalty toward Trump. This is the real Neil Gorsuch we’re seeing. But if he disagreed with Trump on a matter of constitutional principle I tend to believe he’d not hesitate to express such disagreement

Well. All I can say is, it’s such a relief to know they’re not traitors. Because as someone will pedantically be along to point out, we’re not technically at war with Russia. Or that the investigation is totally bogus, because you know, Trump himself isn’t under investigation.

Fortified with such enlightened superior thinking, I shall sleep better tonight.

This will probably keep me up, though. (CNN)

It shouldn’t, but under the circumstances, it does.

Nice that we learn about Sergey Naryshkin’s attendance from the Russian media.

I think you need to drill down a little more on how he was shepherded through to his nomination.

The Federalist Society and Heritage Foundation Wish List, plus ties to billionaire Philip Anschutz (New York Times)

Gorsuch Refuses to Reveal his Billionaire Backers in Confirmation Hearing (The Hill)

Maybe him being owned by people like this doesn’t bother you. It bothers me a lot.

This is really interesting. I’m uncomfortable with it, because as a rule I don’t advocate stooping to the same level as your opponent or that the end justifies the means. But Republicans have learned how to weaponize the decency of Dems to not “go there,” and it always works to the disadvantage of the Dems. So I honestly don’t know.

People say we’re “heading” for a Constitutional crisis. I think we’re already in one.

Does that justify setting aside traditional norms of government? Really tough call, if not doing so potentially means there will be no government we recognize left to worry about.

Perhaps it means reverting back to 19th-century political traditions.

Are we heading toward the last opportunity to jump ship here?

Doesn’t bode well for we broads. :frowning:

Do you feel that way? It is all sadly overwhelming. But no. Mueller is and has been well aware of the potential for his being fired, almost from the beginning. I am comfortable he will have safeguarded the investigation in many ways. Trump’s antics may slow it down, but it won’t stop it.

In my view, the real unknown is how many American citizens will begin to perceive the genuine threat to their system of government. I am still hopeful. The numbers show that a majority want Mueller to finish what he’s started. If/when the indictments start to fall and plea deals are revealed, I think you’ll be gratified to see how fast public opinion can shift – no matter what Hannity is spewing.

Tonight, Don Jr. is hoping Hope Hicks doesn’t turn on him and vice versa. Every one of these people is hoping that every other one holds up under pressure. And a lot of these people don’t seem all that good at holding up to interrogation.

They aren’t and they won’t. Mueller has an embarrassment of riches at his disposal. But timing is everything… we must endure until he picks his moment. This is going to be a tough year. I don’t expect Mueller to submit his final report until after January 2019. But… that doesn’t mean more indictments and/or plea deals won’t come down the pike in the interim.

Meantime, I do everything I can to push the mid-terms in the direction I hope will be most beneficial for our country. Now is the time to speak out as you never have before, in every way you can. Don’t bail just yet! :slight_smile:

I don’t think it will take another year for the money laundering indictments to come down the pike.

I still find it remarkable that no one but I seem to find it notable that the media announced the Veselnitskaya meeting in what was the morning of the G20 summit, that evening Trump and Putin had a lengthy chat together which Trump said was about “adoptions”, and then the next morning he’s drafting the cover story for the meeting.

With that conversation between Putin and Trump, about that meeting, how are you supposed to ever be able to trust that the accounts of the meeting that all of the participants have given wasn’t coordinated between the two groups?

At that point, you just fundamentally can’t trust any account of what went down at the meeting.