I know where he can get some.
ESPN?
Okay, this isn’t part of the Mueller investigation (yet) but I don’t know that it needs it’s own thread either so I’m gonna mention it here (bolding mine): Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) seeks documents on Russia money links to the NRA.
The NRA getting Russian money has been out for a couple days now. Fucking hard to keep up.
This is so crazy that I think it is going to be seen as “fake news” by most conservatives, even the ones who are starting to doubt Trump.
The Memo is now online. For some reason my browser at work is blocking it, but the online comments are interesting: overwhelmingly, the consensus is – “Is that it? That’s all?”
Whew.
The bombshell turned out to be a wet Pop-It.
But, not according to Faux News. I believe there are over 100 articles on their homepage about “BOOM!!! DEMOCRATS BAD!!! TRUMP GOD!!!”
I don’t get it. The Steele dossier was largely regarded as bogus when it first emerged, yet the memo suggests the FBI acted on information from it to nail Carter Page. I’m pretty sure that wasn’t the sole source of information the FBI used, and if anything they determined they couldn’t verify its accuracy.
Plus, do they really want to mention how the DNC financed the Steele dossier operation when Mueller is investigating how the RNC and Kushner worked with Russia to influence the election? They’re following Trump’s example and remaining oblivious to the past.
Two problems that may be inhibiting your ability to get it:
Nobody seriously regards the dossier as completely bogus. Quite the opposite; its content has either been confirmed independently or remains unconfirmed, but not disproven.
And it was originally funded by Republicans. The DNC only picked it up when they walked away.
It’s not wildly considered as bogus, as evidenced by your next sentence. They also didn’t “nail Carter Page.” Do you know what a counter-intelligence investigation is? It’s where they watch the enemy do stuff. In this case, they watched Russia interact with Carter Page. That doesn’t mean they thinks Page did anything wrong. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t, but that’s not necessarily the point of a counter-intelligence investigation.
Also, the DNC didn’t fund the dossier. Fusion GPS funded the dossier.
Not going to mention who Fusion GPS was? How they got paid?
You people still aren’t getting it are you? The irony for a messageboard with a motto of “Fighting Ignorance” is profound. You sit there peering through your little LCD windows into the speculative illusion of ignorance as a point of view. Pathetic, really.
It seems pretty clear what the memo alleges:
The FBI used a document to get a FISA warrant while withholding material information from the FISA court that would almost certainly have resulted in a denial of a wiretap, had the FISA court known about it. This FISA warrant was then used to spy on a member of a political campaign during an election year. The critical information left out: That the document was funded, through a series of cutouts, by the opposing political campaign.
The memo also alleges that Christopher Steele, the source of the “salacious and unverified” information (Comey’s words), was extremely biased against Trump. He also kept leaking information to the media, causing the FBI to reject him as a source. But after he was dismissed, Bruce Ohr kept feeding the information to the FBI through his wife, who worked with Fusion GPS. Ohr has already been demoted for this.
Another allegation is that the FBI used an article in the media that alleged the same things as the Steele Dossier to ‘corroborate’ the dossier and strengthen its claims to the FISA court, when in fact the FBI knew that the media report was based on leaks from Fusion GPS and therefore had no new information. They withheld that information from the court.
I’m so old that I can remember when Liberals thought that the FISA court was dangerous, and that our civil liberties were under threat from the FBI and Department of Justice using it to spy on citizens. Now we have actual evidence of how the FISA court can be manipulated into allowing spying on Americans on flimsy evidence, and the answer from the left is to defend the government and reject the mere notion that there might be bias and shenanigans going on at this level. And when people want to shed some transparency by releasing the details of the process, the left starts yelling that we need secrecy and that releasing the memo is a terrible thing.
Anything to get Trump, I guess.
Let’s assume for the sake of argument that Remington Steele really was biased. Loathed Trump. Would love to see him not get elected.
So in the course of his opposition research, he’s expecting to see the usual tawdry behavior: treating waiters rudely, girlfriends on the side, shady business deal. But instead he finds that Trump is in bed with the Russians.
So he goes to the FBI and shares his information…not the least bit reluctantly, of course, but it’s the right thing to do anyway.
Is anyone seriously saying “Well, this information is obviously tainted by Steele’s bias, and we can’t use it”?
You mean by a right-wing website?
Finally, something everyone can agree on.
Let’s not forget the British saying that they will stop sharing secrets with the USA if the memo is released.
Anything to tear down our traditional alliances, eh?
Thanks for laying that out, Sam.
Your exit papers were already processed. Nothing’s holding you here other than your burning, thinly veiled and unrequited love for us.
I assume everyone knows. I’m not trying to mislead, I’m trying to counter the misleading right wing narrative that Steele’s involvement equals “colluding with foreigners.” The Clinton campaign contracted Fusion GPS. Who Fusion GPS contracted is not relevant and it’s certainly not the same thing as meeting Russian spies in your own home.