ISTM that you’ve said essentially the same thing several times, each time in its own paragraph. And after all that, not something which seems to call for any sort of response. So I think we’re good.
Ok cool guess I win the bet then :):rolleyes:
Let me help you a bit with my last post. Here are what each of the four points were about:
- a response to your first sentence claiming that I was whining
- asking for a cite about all of the insults you claim that I dish out around here
- pointing out just how many insults were in your post countering my claim that you insult people too much
- an offer of a bet
See all four were different things. I do note your lack of response though, and do not excuse you, so unless you have something else to say on the matter, I am satisfied that I’ve made my point and you had nothing to say in response.
That’s just not correct. The Intelligence Committee wasn’t investigating “collusion” as in, was Trump working with the Russians. It was studying broader issues:
Note that the issue of “collusion” is only part of what the second bullet encompasses.
That they reportedly found no collusion is hardly surprising, given that the conclusion is reportedly the opinion of Republican politicians that have quite obviously long ago given up any vague effort to conduct a bipartisan and thorough investigation. Quite simply, anyone who has any confidence is the House Intelligence Committee as a whole at this time is a fool.
What’s most interesting to me is that the Trump-supporting Republicans have reportedly found that Russia did not favor Trump in the election, which is a contradiction to the assessment of the intelligence agencies who looked at the same issue. This, to me, is the ballsy part of this story. On one hand, we have the people who tracked down Osama bin Laden and sent him to his death. On the other, we have politicians who have shown zero interest in doing anything but carry the water of the White House.
FP, which side do you trust?
See my earlier exchange with iiandyiiii on this subject.
I don’t share your assessment of the Republicans on that committee. That said, if I had to pick a side I would go with the intelligence agencies.
Nonetheless, I doubt if Russian intentions are all that clear to anyone, and the assessments of intelligence agencies about such matters are probably not as conclusive as people might assume. So I think the Republicans probably have some wriggle room there.
This House bullshit will not stop Meuller. It will not stop any Senate investigations. It will not stop investigations at the state level.
All the House report does, is show that Republicans are not ignoring Trump’s cover-up, they’re actively participating. They’re joining in on the conspiracy. They destroyed any illusion that the House was engaged in meaningful investigation, or that they ever had any intention other than protecting Trump at every turn.
It is their cross, and they must bear it.
nm. ninjad
Kinda wish “hinky dealings” had been the official term of choice from the start. Then the America-hating fuckstick would have been spewing tweets with various forms of “NO HINKY DEALINGS!” peppered throughout, and maybe even a few of his supporters would have difficulty buying THAT line of horse shit.
One down, 2 to go. Investigations, Inquiries, Mountainous Molehills busily piled high by seething Dems too blinded by their ill-conceived raging witch hunt to see the irony and futility.
Wah. :rolleyes:
How’s the weather in Moscow this time of year? Still a bit snowy?
I read it and you are just factually wrong. For example, your statement to the effect that the main topic of the investigation is collusion because it is the House Intelligence Committee. That makes literally no sense.
What is your opinion of Devin Nunes?
Whenever I read one of these posts without noticing the username I assume it must be a parody. Poe’s Law in action.
It’s that last molehill (the one constructed by Mueller) that’s gonna be difficult for our fat, out of shape President to climb over, methinks.
Oh. Well of course, now that you put it that way, that changes everything …
Hard to tell once a guy gets into the hot seat. My impression is that he’s a politician like any other politician, e.g. Adam Schiff.
Do you think it’s reasonable to suspect that Nunes has colluded with the White House to minimize the political harm of this investigation?
What would a statesman, one who values his country above his party and reality above lies, do and say in the situation, and how is that different from what (A) Nunes and (B) Schiff have done?
IOW none of this bothsidesist bullshit, please. It only fools the pre-fooled.
It’s certainly reasonable to suspect that, yes.
I bet Mueller was banging his head against the wall yesterday. Just think of how many new investigative threads opened up yesterday alone. Did the House Intelligence Committee work with the White House in their report? Do they need to be investigated for obstruction? If there are things in the report that Muller knows to be false that’s a possibility. Did Tillerson’s firing have anything to do with his Russia statements?
I was thinking how this must be a different experience for the investigators. Because they are probably used to examining thread after thread for irregularities and occasionally finding one that leads somewhere else, and they pull it a little more and it’s usually nothing but sometimes it leads somewhere else — and that’s how they find the underlying crimes.
But I think in this one every thread leads to a big steaming pile of more irregularities, each one meriting it’s own investigation. Then once they start following those, more big steaming piles of possible crimes appear. I don’t know how they keep up.
It’s like fighting the Hydra.
While it’s possible Schiff would do the same with a Democratic President and him leading a House investigation, we don’t know that, nor do I think we have any reason to suspect it. Thus I don’t think it’s reasonable to presume that Schiff is just as corrupt/dishonest/dishonorable/etc. as Nunes.