A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

I don’t get these various arguments. The point of an investigation is to determine whether these various speculations are correct. And you’re having a guy whose actions are part of that investigation overseeing it.

It tells us that publisher has approved the outline of his book :smiley:

Not if the dismissal of Comey was due to the Russia investigation (i.e. what Trump said on TV) rather than the Rosenstein memo (assuming Rosenstein wasn’t aware of the true motive at the time). If Rosenstein knew Trump’s true motive, but complied (“colluded”) anyway, then I’d agree with you.

CNN is reporting that Rosenstein has been consulting with DOJ ethics on this question all along, so the question is rather moot.

Fox News rebuttal…yeah, DOJ ethics: they’re all part of the Deep State, even the ones appointed by Trump.

Again, you’re responding with a couple of “if” statements. Which of these are correct would be subject to investigation. Rosenstein himself is overseeing that very investigation.

I think I’m losing the thread of this entire dumpster fire of an administration. I can’t keep up. There’s a new name in the news every day that I’m supposed to know about. Broidy? Who the fuck is Broidy? And today Trump pardons Scooter Libby, a convicted perjurer from the 2000’s who is now a free man making a fine living with none of his rights being infringed upon because … nope … I have no idea what the hell’s going on anymore. They only shred of hope and/or joy is that everybody being dragged through the coals in the press is a Republican. Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe, Wray … all these deep state malcontents … all Republicans. The party is basically eating itself from the inside, which is fine by me.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he did this in a fit of pique because he’s angry at Comey. (Comey had some involvement in the prosecution of Libby.)

Borowitz outdid himself today.

Hilarious! :D:D:D

That’s pretty good.

How about ten thousand copies of today’s New York Daily News? He can get the gist of that just looking at the front cover, looking at the picture and struggling his way through about two dozen words in large print.

New York state prosecutors are refusing Cohen’s lawyers’ request that they get a chance to look through everything that was seized in the raids and only give to prosecutors what they themselves decide is not covered by attorney-client privilege.

Stupid Watergate continues:

It’s always a good idea for co-conspirators to talk to each other while they’re under investigation. The Feds had a secret warrant for Cohen’s emails for months. I wonder if they had/have a tap on his phones as well.

I’m not going to dispute this with DOJ ethics people, but it’s hard to understand.

One part of that article seemed off as well.

This doesn’t make sense to me at all. OK, so let’s say he doesn’t need Rosenstein to get Trump. But Mueller has indicted any number of people who are not Trump. So Rosenstein could himself be a target. Why would the only relevance of Rosenstein’s participation in Comey’s firing be the extent to which it relates to Trump’s culpability?

Good, because it’s a stupid fucking “request” anyway.

That’s the idea. Nobody can. It’s deliberate. The constant chaos is intentional.

Exactly. It’s the same point as using a Gish Gallop in debate. It’s not meant to convince you. It’s mean to confuse you.

You are making some silly assumptions here. “Rosenstein’s participation in Comey’s firing”—seriously, you’re asserting that Rosenstein conspired with Trump to fire Comey? That Rosenstein intended to obstruct the Russia investigation by firing Comey? These are the only circumstances in which it would make any sense for Rosenstein to “himself be a target.”

If this is your theory, what is your surmise as to any reason Rosenstein could have had for conspiring with Trump, or for attempting to impede the Russia investigation???

Don’t give Fox&Friends ideas.

Another part of Christopher Steele’s dossier appears to be confirmed. Looks like Michael Cohen was in Prague in late September/early October 2016 after all.

I guess that picture of Michael’s passport was just another effort at misdirection. Would he do something like that?