Nope, that last is not going to happen either. By the way, it’s a myth that civil servants cannot be fired.
While the Mueller investigation proceeds, the Democrats are filing a lawsuit against Russia and the Trump campaign, naming Don Jr and Kushner among others, for conspiracy to influence the 2016 election. This may be a distraction or a sideshow, and it may or may not accomplish anything, but it will keep the narrative in media as the midterms approach…and will make it harder for Trump to fire Mueller without seeming to add weight to their claims.
I’m all for Giuliani negotiating with the Mueller investigation, if it wound up with
a) Trump resigning
b) Trump in jail
c) All of the above
Civil servants can be fired, but there’s a process that must be followed and there must be cause and documentation. Details will vary with agency and department, but typically even a governor, say, can’t just demand a random employee be fired because he says so. If he tries, the Civil Service agency with jurisdiction over that employee will vehemently protest, as this would be a usurpation of their authority, which is usually established by legislative statute or rules of some kind. I was a state civil servant once upon a lifetime ago, and saw this type of disputes firsthand. The courts sided with Civil Service, since what their jurisdiction covered was spelled out.
you forgot d) Impoverished.
That is correct. At the federal level the Merit Systems Protection Board adjudicates appeals for civil servants who are disciplined or fired. A rank-and-file government employee can absolutely be terminated for cause, but they can not be legally terminated because the President doesn’t like them. The MSPB derives its authority from the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978.
I agree with friedo. You and Fotheringay-Phipps are two posters I have on manual ignore (since I can’t actually put you on ignore). Your constant flipping out is exceedingly tiresome. Sometimes I accidentally read one of your posts and then immediately realize it’s you because of the characteristic nonsense.
Hey guys, careful poking at asahi, else he’ll come back in here and rub our noses in the fact that he’s the smartest person on these boards again. He’s never wrong and he says so himself.
So do you continue to assert that “every last employee of the US Marshal Service can be terminated by the President of the United States,” “no problem”?
e) Giuliani himself ending up in hot water as a result, somehow.
(A man can dream, no?)
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Realistically, of course he wouldn’t fire every last one, but he could create an environment in which it wouldn’t be very comfortable to cross him.
Maybe his face will stick like that, and he won’t be able to post anymore unless he mounts his monitor on his ceiling.
I agree and have duly posted in your constructive and useful thread.
I suspect that some misguided individual thought it was harmful to the universe (or something) to let us genuinely express derision, and so left us with nothing but the happy blue person smiling at a happy thought that we see here :rolleyes:.
But this is the Pit. If they want to keep the Happy Thinker for the other folders, fine. Here, we need the capacity to seriously roll those orbs.
Laugh if you want.
You will see.
So that would be a no?
As I have prophetically said before, you will see.
Getting back to actual news, Wapo reports that Jeff Sessions says he “could” resign if Rosenstein were fired.
Darn the luck.