A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

This country seems to read collectively at the 2nd grade level or something, because when I read “While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,” I read two things:

  1. The report does not conclude that the president committed a crime - it doesn’t mean that he didn’t, only that the report fails to conclude that he did. Additional facts can always come to light. Other reports might conclude he committed a crime. I could go on, but you get the picture.

  2. The report does NOT exonerate him - because prosecutors don’t exonerate in the first place. Moreover, it quite literally is saying that this report does not exonerate him, so it’s foolish to say otherwise.

And I’m sure they’ll all agree on what the truth is.:rolleyes:

Come, come my good person, clearly the truth is that Trump is innocent of all crimes he has committed in the past and the future.

Further it is the truth that we need more investigation of Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster, and Ben Gazi!

CMC fnord!

I had no idea so many people, especially super-skeptical and evidence-based-decision-maker Democrats, were duped by this con. This will surely rank as one of the biggest mass delusions in American history.

Probably up there with the delusion that the Mueller report has actually been released and we know what it says.

Most reports are saying he found no collusion. Reason to dispute the NYT?

Most reports are that Barr’s letter states there was no collusion. Please cite the NY Times piece which quotes the actual report.

Thanks!

McConnell just blocked a motion to have the report released to the public. :slight_smile:

Did I say the report was quoted? Read for comprehension.

Reports are about Barr’s letter. We don’t actually know what Mueller’s report says. I, for one, make no conclusion without actual evidence (i.e. the report).

Ok cool. The Warren Report is partially redacted so it isn’t a delusion to think Oswald was a patsy.

No actually you’ve made your conclusion without actual evidence. That is the delusion, bud.

Collusion isn’t a binary yes or no issue. Instead it’s a scale. We know from the public record that it went from green (no collusion) to yellow. The only other thing we know is that it didn’t get to red (criminal conspiracy). It could have got to orange, or dark orange, but we currently have no way of knowing that. If it had gotten to orange then that would be worrying on a political level, even if it hadn’t reached the high bar of federal crime.

Yes there are variations of the delusion, which is typical of mass delusions. Right now, I’m at green, no crazy. You’re at a tangerine, still clinging to a variation of nuts. Some others are a deep red, and they are seeing it as they furiously type their increasingly bizarre theories.

Here is where you quoted the report.

“He” refers to Mueller.

Mueller has said nothing.

Please read for comprehension. May I suggest beginning your research with pronouns and their proper use?

Of course, he did. I guess his baby boy’s diaper isn’t clean enough for public viewing.

So you don’t think evidence for potential collusion even got to yellow? :confused:

The part of Barr’s letter that quotes the report says, “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

The words conspired and coordinated both have legal significance and refer to specific crimes. The quoted sentence says that some fairly specific crimes could not be established. It doesn’t say anything about collusion because, as has been pointed out repeatedly by Giuliani and others, that collusion is not a crime.

Collusive, but apparently non-criminal, activity between members of the Trump campaign and Russians is well documented and that documentation is publicly available.

Apologies for whatever is ailing your mind. I, for one, plan to wait to see what happens, and don’t know what the final result will be. You are free to delude yourself about what I think, as you frequently have, but I’m not sure if it’s good for your health to be so certain that you can read minds.

What is this con? Do you believe an investigation that led to 34 indictments, many guilty pleas, and prison sentences was just a con?

If you guys insist on feeding the troll, at least have the decency to not quote him so the rest of us don’t have to see his idiocy.

And good luck! I’m sure you have him on the ropes now and will soon win the argument!