A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

There were three, and only Doug Jones of Alabama is defending his seat in 2020.

I’m a little slow so help me with this. Trump asserts executive privilege to keep the Muller report under wraps. Executive Privilege exists so that that the president can confer with his advisors without worrying that these conversations will be made “public”. Have I got this correct so far? But these conversations have already been released to Muller. Even if Muller quotes whoever said what Trump said, isn’t it too late to assert the privilege? Shouldn’t have he asserted it before they talked to Muller? I just don’t understand how the privilege applies to this whole report. Also, if I understand it correctly, wasn’t there an offer to let committee members view the report without making copies? Were there strings attached? Granted, its almost pointless to view a 400 page report with being able to take notes (I assume that’s the case). But not completely pointless. I think it would be shrewd move to fight tooth and nail to not release a report or whatever, have a court force you to do so and then have nothing noteworthy in the report. “See. I told you so! Witch hunt!”

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Hmmm… your questions sound suspiciously… um… reasonable. Sorry, but logic, reason, rationality, being sensible, making sense, hell, even being *civil *have no place in these proceedings. Next!

Way to mischaracterize what I said. I’m urging the Democrats to show real strength and show a real win, not simply capitulate because “it’ll be difficult” or “there’s no guarantee it’ll work”. Fucking grow up, make decisions and then act on them, Democrats. Stop being lame-ass weaklings.

Aye; I thought that’s what we were doing.

Not sure I’d go that far.

I agree.

I agree. I just don’t think that anyone should be given a pass. Hound them. Don’t stop. Don’t let up. There need to be recriminations or there will be repetitions (and possibly even bigger transgressions).

Maybe. But look at it this way: why should Democrats feel burdened by the GOP’s previous actions? The GOP certainly doesn’t feel burdened by any sort of precedent, whether set by themselves or their opposition.

ETA: It’s very difficult to win a game when the other side has no regard for the rules. At some point, IMO, you have to recognize that the game has changed and play with the new rules/conditions.

You’ve moved into bizzarre-o territory here.

If it doesn’t constitute an admission of tax fraud, it should at least constitute an admission that he can’t be trusted to coherently explain even a summary of his tax return situation, and that the HoR has a legitimate purpose behind their demand to look at them.

Yeah, no kidding. I thought they were threatening him with contempt of congress because he’s refusing their summons. It ain’t like they just targeted him out of the blue.

Out of curiosity, do you draw a distinction between “there’s no guarantee it’ll work” “there’s a guarantee that it WON’T work”?

Trump’s opinion of the Mueller report has changed yet again, and it is now "the Bible."

Given how little of the Bible he knows, I feel safe in predicting he doesn’t really know what’s in the report either.

This simply means that you read it occasionally (somewhere between once a week or once a year), quote the parts you agree with, and disregard the rest.

So, yes, indeed, just like the Bible.

Or that you’ve heard of it. The way people might refer to The Koran when they have never held one or opened one and have no idea what’s in it.

Yes.

Out of curiosity, do you draw a distinction between “stupid questions” and “stupid questions that are obviously trying to lead somewhere”? :smiley:

It can be difficult to figure out what is in the Bible with all those goddam redactions.

Might want to re-read Barr’s memo again:

Many people are saying that Your favorite President is TOTALLY cleared by a passage in Two Collusions.”

The first book of the Trump Version Mueller Report Bible wouldn’t be “Genesis”, it would be “Oranges”.

Trump tried to obstruct the obstruction case by getting McGahn to publicly declare that there was no obstruction. McGahn declined. It’s like meta obstruction.