I call them the Graham sect because that is an easy way to describe them and everyone not familiar with the complicated intertwined and yet differned thousands US sects in Christianity knows immediately which brand I refer to.
there si no Graham sect. Billy and Franklin are, as far as I know, Southern Baptists.
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Every denomination we have exists in other countries. I know there are Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, and the like over there. Heck, I’ll even bet that you guys have Pentacostals.
Sounds like you’re just making excuses for being too lazy to dig up enough info to back up whatever the hell it is you’re babbling about.
So, it’s okay to make blanket statements about all American Protestants without actually knowing anything them?
See, this is why you are getting Pitted. It’s stuff like this. You can’t just make uneducated generalizations without getting called on it. Unless I am missing your point?
Smart! But that’s been done before so you don’t score any points for originality.
Then you think that those people who are not familiar with Christanity in US knows who is Graham? Did you mean Billy Graham or the Graham brand of biscuits? Either you are trying to justify yourself or you logic coding in your brain is fried. I hope it’s the latter but I believe it’s the former.
That’s a valid justification. But you managed with denomination right this time. Tried the magical combination of CTRL+C and CTRL+V yet?
Those are not just US sects. Those ‘sects’ are all over the world. In Singapore there are Baptists, Methodists, Protestants, charamaistic and numerous independents churches. You did assume I was from the US, did you?
But the way, there’s no need to prove anything to anyone on this board – so far all your proving has just proven one thing – you cannot admit that you are wrong.
Sorry to say so, but Christianity in America is a joke. I’ve been for a very long time on US Christian boards, where one sect or group virtually kills the other one because that verse is not that verse and that psalm must be taken such or such…
Sorry, but i’m not at all interested in such childish fights when it comes to such a serious thing s worshopping God, and American Christians forget about worshipping God and do nothing else then fight among each other.
Every lunatic who takes a quote out of the Bible and starts a sect, gets followers and there we go again.
If I witness those TV preachers telling people God inspired them to ask the TV public money, I vomit.
The same for all those TV preachers ingeneral and the same when I watch Christians wishing other Christians to be doomed because they dont belong to “the only right” Christianity.
Blatant ignorance. Protestantism is one of the three great unfortunate divisions of Christianity, but no one (even where you live) can be unaware that there are more elements of it. Europe also has many separate denominations of Protestantism, as does Africa and Asia, and if you claim that President Bush adheres to “Protestantism” without recognizing his denomination, then you are simply displaying your ignorance. This is especially true if you wish to claim that Graham and Bush are of the same group–which you clearly implied, although your construction was typically confusing. (Just to help you avoid your error in the future, President Bush is Methodist and Franklin Graham is somewhat associated with the Southern Baptists.)
I have made up nothing about you and can point to evidence of any claim I have made about you.
(Your ego is keeping you up past your bed time, reading all this attention you’ve garnered, for example.)
Well it can very well be that you have some of those sects where you live, yet the part of the world I’m most familiar with does not.
So I don’t need to know them and like I said: I find it not only sad, but disgusting, how Christians can’t even find out themselves “who is right” and “who is wrong” about Christianity.
That was the case since the very beginning and you can’t deny that there are thousands and thousands of sects.
All the rest of your post is to be ignored.
You people are really amazingly good in your “let’s scare him away techniques”, do you know that?
I think I’m going to recommend you for some award.
If that doesn’t exist yet, it must be invented.
Well, now you’re just plain wrong. There are many dedicated, good, kind Christians on this board and in America at large. Certainly there are theological differences among the variing denominations, but by and large American Christians have a very ecumenical approach to bridging their differences. I think you’ll find that most serious Christians share your disgust with the cupidity of TV preachers, not that there are that many influential ones left these days.
Christian Dopers. please note that I’ve defended you guys again!
Tom, it is not “past bedtime”. It is morning here. If i’m going to be now, I don’t get up until midday. That is not recomendable since I have to be somewhere (awake) around 10.
And of course I’ m amused. You people think you are so great. Yet you behave like schollkids of the age around 12.
You mean like pointing out when you are wrong about your preconceived assumptions?
You are starting to be less entertaining. You’ve gone into “persecuted martyr” mode far too quickly. Slow it down, man. Draw out the anticipation of the meltdown. It’s just good showmanship.
While there are certainly many doctrinal differences among Christian denominations, it seems to me that those differencxes are quite minor. All Christians believe in the major doctrines of the church:
God created humanity to live in harmony with Him.
Humans sinned, causing a division between God and Man.
God sent His son Jesus to atone for the sins of all humans on the cross.
Jesus rose from the dead.
Jesus will return to judge humanity in the Last Days.
Sorry, but the question in Ireland is not religious, but political.
And the division between sunn and shi’a in Islam is also caused by political events. And there isn’t any difference in the core of the religion. It is about how they see the succession of Muhammed.
So since you claim to be an expert in the field: you must know what caused that division, no? Because if you start talking about something, you must know about it.
Here I sit, madly refreshing the MPSIMS page every few minutes, desperately hoping to read your introduction thread, to get to know you, but nothing
So I return to this thread, to find you arguing with those you were complaining about
Why, oh why are you spending your precious time responding to those who upset you so, when you could be sharing yourself in MPSIMS ?
Do you want me to not know you ? What should I do to please you, Aldebaran ? I tried to be nice and friendly, as you requested but you ignore my attempts
Thanks for the defense against this paragon of ignorance gobear. You get kudos from me if no one else.
Aldebaran, have you ever spent any real time among real Christians in the US? I will admit to being a United Methodist and I must say that within my area we have none of the infighting you are referring to. The only church around here that has any problems with any other is the “Baptist” Church down the street from me (more of a cult than a church, hence the quotes) who inform me daily that I’m going to hell because I have long hair and watch television :rolleyes:
In fact, I just directed my youth choir at an interdenominational praise rally in which very major denomination was represented. Guess what? it didn’t turn into a war, a scuffle, there weren’t even any unkind words exchanged.
Anecdotal evidence may not be the best kind but please kindly research your notions before you go spouting them in a public forum; especially one in which ignorance is fought.
so you don’t score any points for originality.