A wedding rant.....do they think I can just shit money out of my ass?!

My beloved and I are trying to plan our wedding, now that we have bought a house (the house came first…long story). We know basically what we want to do, how many people are going to be invited (about 150…yikes!!), where we’re going for the honeymoon, all that stuff. What we keep foundering on is this simple fact:

The CHEAPEST reception cost that we have found (we’re in New Jersey, if that matters) is $65 A PLATE!!! ** WHAT THE * FUCK!!! ***

That works out to over $9000!!! Just for the fucking reception!!! Good God above, we’re not rolling in money! We just spent $165,000 to buy a shack so we can have a roof over our heads, and don’t have enough equity built up yet for a 2nd mortgage. $65 APIECE!!! For the love of all that’s Right and Holy, I can take my fiance out to a terrific restaurant and get steak and lobster for less than that!! The mind reels…does $65 a plate include blow jobs for the guys and cunnilingus for the ladies? What about the kids, then…do we have to separate them from their parents?
I had some friends in South Dakota just get married and they fed over 125 people for less than $700…what the fuck is up with New Jersey?! Just because this is a wedding, the caterers feel they can charge whatever they feel like?!

I’ve looked at previous rants in here and the wondrous way people can vent. I just wish I had the words to describe the incredible anger I feel.
And I throw myself at the mercy of the SDMB’ers for any suggestions; short of eloping and hitting a Justice of the Peace, we’re pretty much open to suggestions.

…pretty lame way to end a rant, but what the heck…

Well, this one time, I swallowed a quarter… I’m sure you can fill in the blanks.

I just cannot believe you’ve looked in enough places. Mrs. RickJay and I couldn’t find anyplace that EXPENSIVE. We ended up going with the caterer that asked $25 a head. That’s Canadian. And included wine.

One suggestion; try a lunch buffet. Screw dinner; just have your wedding at 11, pile everyone into the reception hall at 1, feed them a lunch buffet of chicken and pasta, and you and your bride get the hell out of Dodge by 6 so you catch a flight.

Toaster,
Yicks that’s expensive. I live in Minneapolis and am getting married next year, and we’ve settled on $15 a plate at a local country club (this is for shrimp, ribs or chicken as the main course). You may want to see if you can find a place slightly out of town in the country.

There were tons of places much more expensive, but this one has all we need, wine, dancing and food.

It CAN be very reasonable, an example would be a friend of mine who had hers at the legion in her very rural home town. $100 for the room, $8 a plate, a $50 keg of beer. (And a fake plastic wedding cake, but we won’t go into that.) It depends on what you want.

Me…I want a real cake gosh darn it, even if we can only afford one the size of a cupcake. :smiley:

You may very well have some of my ass pennies jingling around in your pocket right at this moment.

Fifteen years of putting $20 worth of pennies in my ass daily, and then spending them, assures me that my ass pennies are a significant portion of the U.S. penny supply.

It helps me feel self confident. How could you be better than me? I haven’t touched anything that’s been in your ass.

You got your ass pennies in change from my ass nickles.

So there.

Here’s some unsolicited advice.

When you’re calling caterers, NEVER tell them it’s for a wedding reception. Just tell them you’re throwing a party. When they hear the “W-word”, they jack their prices up.

You can prove this to yourself by calling a caterer, describing what you want and saying it’s for a wedding reception - then have your fiancee call and say it’s for a party, describing the exact same requirements. Don’t do business with anyone who quotes different rates (and tell them why you’re not hiring them).

You might try checking area culinary schools to see if you can locate a recent grad who’s trying to establish herself - they’ll be full of fresh ideas and might be willing to cut a deal just to get the business (not to mention the referrals).

Toaster, phew! That’s some steep pricing!

In New Orleans, a $25-30-per-plate reception is considered uber-ritzy. Middle-class wedding joints go for $12-25 per head.

Chef Troy and Vivien have good ideas.

I went to a wedding where the couple hired out a restaurant for the reception. I’m not sure how cheap/expensive this is, but it’s definitely an idea.

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Recently my boyfriend and I were talking about weddings, and in particular, James and Jodhi Packer’s $8 million dollar wedding.(James Packer is Kerry Packer’s son. FTR, the couple recently announced that they were separating) But it gradually came to light that my boyfriend assumed the average wedding and reception costs $1 million. I almost choked. :eek:

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Rickjay, I see I haven’t made myself clear. The price of $65/plate IS for a buffet.

And Vivien, that is just for the food…the best price we’ve found for a band is (gulp) $10,000…you read that right. The best price for a DJ is $5500.

Christ Almighty, I’m going to have to rob a bank to get married.

That is a waste of money. Sure it’s your memory day, but good heavens if it cost you 10 years to pay for it that’s a lot of memory for less than 8 hours of fun.
Do a lot more checking, change locations, why does it have to be a dinner?
If you pay that much for your wedding, you will regret it. Especially when no one will remember if but you and you will remember it only for the cost.

Where in Jersey are you? My friend had a wedding in Mahwah, I think it was $85/plate, she thought it was a great deal. :smiley:

$10K for a band is outrageous, though. My friend got the Flying Mueller Brothers for much less than that, and they were fantastic.

$10,000?

Band or orchestra? :eek:

Does it have to be a dinner buffet? Can it be heavy hor doerves?(I still don’t know how to spell that word.)

Yeah, watch out for the “Wedding Trap” that Chef Troy described, that’s pretty low and unfortunately not all that uncommon.

I definitely feel your pain, it’s a sucky situation to want to have a nice party for your friends and family, and realize that the wedding/catering market often seems to be calibrated towards people like the Kennedys (who may or may not be cursed, or so I hear). I think you’re also getting shafted by the fact that NJ prices are often impacted by NYC prices – everything tends to be inflated compared with most other areas of the country. I don’t know if this is a good thing to say or not – but I think $65 is average for this area.

As to suggestions, I would second the recommendation of looking at some local restaurants that have private rooms, they will often be less expensive than the “banquet hall” scenario. You might also ask for estimates for options like plated v. buffet dinners, to get a sense of the difference in price. Also look into wine and beer bar service, as opposed to full premium, this can be a small savings as well. There are options between a big wedding and eloping – depending on the time of day, you could go with just wine (and soft drinks, of course) and an elegant, fancy-schmancy dessert buffet instead of an actual meal.

You might want to look at local colleges or libraries or public parks or other cultural institutions in the area – they sometimes rent space on the weekends for some extra income, and it’s usually pretty reasonable. You would then have to find a small caterer to come in, and again, you might opt for a buffet or something less elaborate than a full sit down dinner. This option could save you some money, but the trade-off is that you have to organize things like table rentals and flowers and decorations yourself. (One of the reasons banquet hall prices start rising is because they are “one stop shopping” for all those trappings). You have to keep an eye on this sort of thing because all the rentals can start adding up until you’re back in the $65 range again.

If you have a relative with a large home, you could ask (eek) to use the home for the party, and again, bring in a small caterer. Preferrably one that is just starting out in the business and is looking for new clients. This works the best if the house is large enough (and the weather is expected to be warm) that you don’t need to rent a tent – that’s costly. Also, some restaurants will cater in homes, at a lower cost than most “wedding caterers.”

Not related to your problem, but I thought I’d mention it – when you get estimates from caterers, make sure they VERY CLEARY spell out whether or not labor is included in the per person cost. It is fairly standard to quote, say, $25 a head, and then it turns out that labor is ADDITIONAL. You want to ask them upfront for an estimate, in writing, that shows a per person breakdown that is INCLUSIVE of labor, tax, and any equipment rentals. Also ask that your per person estimate include any gratuity or service charge that you would be expected to pay. Because a gratuity is optional (har, har), some places will try to skip it on the estimate, and then act shocked that you weren’t planning to include a 17.5% gratuity when you pay the bill.

See if one of the plucky relatives in yours or your fiance’s families plays a musical instrument. Tell 'em you’ll give them five hundred bucks to put together a five-piece jazz/smooth sounds band thing and play for three hours. The young’ns get money and the thrill of planning something like that, and you get a cheap band that makes your family happy.

Just make sure they would really, really want to do it, and that they wouldn’t mind missing the reception. An idea to consider.

We had a similar discussion about a month ago. My suggestion is to check with area restaurants. Many restaurants will cater an event and they’re almost always cheaper than caterers. The only thing is a lot of restaurants won’t provide labor. But then, that’s what friends are for. :slight_smile:

I just got married last month, out in the San Francisco Bay Area, another uber-expensive place for wedding stuff. We simply don’t have $20-30k that weddings usually run, so we cut some corners and still had by all accounts a perfect, elegant little wedding.

Ways to save money:

  1. Either have dinner with a lot less guests, or a “champagne and dessert” reception. We opted for the former, dinner for about 80 guests. All relatives/acquaintances invited so they’d feel included (usually requested by one of the mothers) were cut from the guest list. It’s your wedding – only invite people you’re actually close to. The latter is getting more and more common, though, and people really don’t care if they get a free bad meal.

  2. Find a location where you can bring in your own food and alcohol. The places that force you to use theirs charge an outrageous mark-up for low quality stuff.

  3. Do your own music. We just burned CDs for different phases of the wedding (cocktail/dinner, early dancing, later dancing) and brought in our stereo. Wedding DJs are almost always horrible, and play crappy music, no matter what you ask them to play.

  4. Do your own invitations. We bought card stock and printed them ourselves. Cost us about $150. We used a Brian Andreas print that we really liked on the front cover (paid $50 for permission to use it). They were a big hit, and no one cared that they weren’t engraved on fancy paper.

  5. Do your own flowers. There are mail-order wholesale flower places that will FedEx flowers to you a day or so before. My wife and her family/friends put together bouquets during the day before her shower, and had fun doing it (although it took longer than they expected so plan ahead). We just had bouquets and a few flowers in vases at the reception, and it looked really nice. Total cost: around $300, for several dozen roses and three other kinds (I don’t know which – I’m a boy). (If you haven’t priced flowers yet, you will shit your pants when you hear them tell you with a straight face that bouquets are $300 EACH.

Or, seriously, just consider having a private little ceremony in someone’s back yard, with a few family and close friends. The memories will be just as beautiful, and you’ll save tens of thousands of dollars that you can spend on your house. It’s all about the ceremony. The reception is great fun, but may not be worth tens of thousands of dollars and countless hours of work beforehand.

Good luck!

Have it in your yard (if big enough) or get a permit to have it in a local park. New Jersey is the “Garden State”, isn’t it? Assuming it’s a summer wedding, of course.

Check the local community college music department for an up-and-coming string quartet that’ll work cheap.

Good luck, hope it all works out…Timmy, the hopeless romantic

Thanks, Toaster, for making my wedding seem really inexpensive. :smiley:
We’re getting married here in Calgary next month (holy crap, that’s the first time I’ve thought of it that way!), and when we were pricing caterers, we thought $30/plate was expensive. We’ve decided on one that is charging us $13/plate for a nice Italian buffet dinner. I don’t know what kind of service you get around your neck of the woods, but the caterers here truly, deeply suck for service. Getting a return phone call or a price quote was like pulling teeth; we went with this caterer because they were the only ones that could be bothered to fax a quote. I hope your experience with caterers is better; aside from the wedding gown hassles, this has been the worst part of the planning for me.

According to the etiquette people, the time of day dictates what you serve your guests; a mid-afternoon or morning wedding allows you the most freedom with the food. A late afternoon/early evening wedding is pretty much expected to have a complete dinner. You could have an earlier in the day wedding with just finger foods, and follow it up with a nice meal at a nice restaurant for just the wedding party and parents. There’s plenty of ways to get skinny cats, you know.

Flowers - think Safeway. Cake - think Safeway. They do wedding packages for both flowers and cakes for much, much less than the special wedding people.

I third the idea of no dj and burning your own cds. That’s what we have done - now is the time to start keeping a list of songs you run across that you would like to hear at your wedding. If you like your basic rock 'n roll, I could email you the list we’re using for our wedding as a starting point, with all the songs carefully considered to not have inappropriate messages for weddings (The Police’s “Every Breath You Take” is not on our list).

Good luck, have fun, keep us posted on how things are coming along.