He went back to calling himself GL around JSA #50, when he got his ring back instead of his powers being internal.
The original Hourman is around again after being rescued from a time pocket and avoiding his Zero Hour death thanks to the android Hourman. The original Wildcat is still active, too. Liberty Belle is still around (granted, she was a later creation) and occasionally puts on the costume (and by “occasionally”, I mean she did it in a JSA Thanksgiving issue a couple years ago). Johnny Thunder is part of Jakkem’s thunderbolt or something, I forget exactly how that happened.
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Is Wolverine the second mutant? Or are there any stories/characters from a time between Apocolypse?QUOTE]
in Origin Wolverine had an older brother named John who scratched up their mother and then died (or was killed) when his powers manifested around 12 y.o. So we know there’s at least one in between Wolvie and Apocalypse.
I thought Sabertooth was supposed to be Wolverine’s dad? But then, I was out of the comic collecting scene from 1996 - 2003, so I realize a lot has changed during that time.
I think Sinister would be the second mutant, wouldn’t he?
Otto, Storm beat Callisto for Morlock leadership before she lost her powers (UXM #170), but she specifically didn’t use them when she fought her. She lost her powers in UXM #185.
Storm leaves Earth to fight nasty aliens.
Storm returns and find the elements reject her.
Wolverine goes to Japan and has a mini-series. Fighting for the woman he loves (Lady Mariko) and meeting Yukio.
Storm, Kitty, NIghtcrawler, and Collossus dicover Morlocks and are captured.
Storm fights Callisto (she is not allowed to use her powers or an X-man dies).
Storm wins the fight, stabbing Callisto (unexpected given her nature up til then) and becomes leader of the Morlocks.
Rogue joins the X-men. Much to their dismay.
Wolverine invites X-men to wedding in Japan.
X-men are poisoned by Viper. Rouge, Wolverine and Storm are the only ones not incapacitated. (Rogue due to alien biochemistry, Wolvie due to heling factor, Storm never drank it.)
Storm flees into Tokyo and meets up with Yukio.
Yukio and Storm fight some toughs. Storm shows signs on getting wild around Yukio.
Rogue and Wolverine track down Viper. Rogue nearly dies saving Lady Mariko.
Storm shows up at the Wolvie’s wedding all punked out. Wedding cancelled (not because of Storm).
Much other shit happens. Including the ‘Secret Wars’
Rogue comes home and acts a bit crazy. Attacks the SHIELD heli-carrier.
Rogue flees the mansion.
Storm tracks down Rogue and talks with her. Convincing her she isn’t so bad.
Gov’t agents with power zapping gun attack Rogue and Storm. Rogue is shot (low power). Both try to save a floundering tugboat caught in a Storm induced storm.
Guv’t baddy zaps Storm at full power. Stripping her of her powers permenantly.
Why do I remember this shit? These are braincells that could have been remembering useful stuff! I don’t even have those comic books anymore!
As an aside, if I recall correctly, the events of the issue that you discuss (#183?) lead right into the Kitty/Wolvie mini-series.
But secondly (and all IMHO of course) Wolverine’s reaction made no sense. None. Colossus falls in love with Alien Secret Wars chick during the year (his time) he was trapped on Secret Wars world (and thought he’d never get back). She dies as the result of a ham-handed plot twist. He realizes that what he felt for Kitty was a crush, not love. At the first opportunity Colossus tells Kitty as gently as possible that he’s no longer in love with her. In other words Colossus does exactly the right, correct and honorable thing. He doesn’t string her along, he doesn’t lie to her and he isn’t unnecessarily cruel about it.
Wolverine gets pissed and allows/prompts Juggernaut (who was much more a brutal killer in those days than the cuddly teddy-bear (yuk) that he is now) to beat the shit out of Colossus. When Nightcrawler tries to intervene, Wolvie stops him. Colossus, bruised and battered asks Wolvie why Wolvie and Nightcrawler didn’t help. Wolvie then delivers a lecture about “Now you know how it feels when your teammates let you down–Kitty was willing to be disfigured and marry a really gross Morlock for your sake and you dump her just 'cause you don’t love her? You dishonorable jerk.” (paraphrased)
Um…Claremont’s always been bad with dialogue, atrocious really, but his charactizations and plots (when he has a strong editor who can slap him around and keep him in line) can be strong enough to carry the horrible dialogue. This time, not so much.
What was Colossus supposed to do? He was the victim of a bad mini-series and didn’t love Kitty any more. How honorable is it to be a wuss and not tell her the truth as soon as possible so she can get on with her life? I’ve never figured out what, exactly, Wolverine thought Colossus should have done (keeping in mind that not falling in love with Alien Secret-Wars chick wasn’t an option. Colossus had no choice in the matter and besides, he thought he’d be on Secret Wars planet the rest of his life at the time (IIRC). I mean, the only other options were A) Act like a jerk so Kitty breaks up with you or B) Don’t tell Kitty you don’t love her and trap her in a sham relationship. Um. Neither option is A) “honorable” (wolvie’s term) or B) healthy.
I’ve always assumed that issue didn’t happen as it’s so grossly out of character for Wolverine, Nightcrawler and Juggernaut (at the time. The new teddy-bear version of Juggernaut, it kinda is in character–but I don’t like the new teddy-bear version of Juggernaut, so…)
Last I heard, in an issue of Marvel Spotlight (or Marvel Premier or something) there was a story (that’s been referenced elsewhere) where Nick (and maybe Dum-Dum and Gabe) were affected by a longevity serum called “The Infinity Formula”. Doesn’t make him/them immortal, but it does make him/them very long lived.
Also, as an aside, any story that shows Wolverine with Adamantium claws prior to about 7 years ago (Marvel time) is completely out-of-continuity*. Mavel has the 10 year rule (IIRC they’ve expanded it from 7)–IE the FF’s rocket launched 10 years ago and everything that’s happened since FF 1, 1961 to now has actually happened in the last 10 years. Adamantium (Cap’s shield is NOT adamantium–see Avengers Annual 2001 for a lecture on this point) wasn’t invented until Avengers #66 (it was an attempt to recreate the mystery metal that Cap’s shield was made of–it failed to duplicate Cap’s shield but luckily it has a bunch of other uses!) which would have been about 7-8 years ago Marvel time. IE, Adamantium wasn’t invented until (as of today) about 1997. (Actually, a good retcon would be to say that he had the bone claws sheathed with a thin layer of steel or something back in the 30’s. But they never actually have said that)
Which just goes to show that the 10 year rule is kinda silly**, but :: shrug ::
Fenris
*This isn’t a nit-pick, this is like saying that any Sherlock Holmes story where everyone in Victorian London is using jetpacks and ray-guns isn’t cannon. The story might still be good (heh, I’d buy it), but it can’t be reconcilled with the main body of work and the history of the other novels.
**For example, in FF #19, Nick Fury, who’s a big-shot CIA type (pre S.H.I.E.L.D.) knows that he can trust this new team, the FF, because he fought alongside Reed and Ben back in WWII. (Ben was a fighter pilot, Reed worked for the OSS or something). If you move things up 10 years, I suppose you could put Reed in the CIA and Ben as a fighter pilot during the Gulf War, but then, what’s a 70 year old Nick Fury doing there in combat?
DC: Most heroes of the WWII era, were granted extra vitality and long life by something Per Degaton did in the… god knows what. Some kind of blowback. The Flash, additionally, was trapped in stasis between the end of his comic and the 60s, thanks to something the Shade, Fiddler, and Wizard did, I believe. Also, the JSA was trapped for several years in Ragnarok, merged with the norse gods, outside of time.
Wildcat also happens to have had nine lives, it was revealed recently. Had, I think he’s down to seven. Ma Hunkle’s still around, as are the Tornado Twins, Merry, Girl of 1000 gimmicks, and Stripes, as well as several of the Little Blue Boys.
There is a Guardians of the Galaxy story where Wolverine hangs around for another 300 years, or so, by the way. Before being killed by his granddaughter, IIRC.
The Infinity Formula is an unsuccessful duplication of the Super Soldier Formula.
You forgot to insert “Wolverine has a pretty freaking intense fight with the Silver Samaurai, drawn expertly by Paul Smith, in which Wolvie takes heavy damage but still ends up winning, being the bad-ass that he is,” right after Rogue and Wolverine track down Viper. One of my favorite issues with Wolvie in the spotlight, along with the issue where Wolvie and Nightcrawler and Alpha Flight take on the Wendigo…