But are they the best words like [del]Trump[/del] aceplace uses?
On an odd note, teenager in Korea and China starts at 10 given the way the language works (“ten one” for eleven, “ten two” for twelve, etc.).
LM… you made me laugh !!
AP makes me sad.
Can’t find it again, but I read an article some time ago that proposed that part of the problem the average American child has with arithmetic/math (relative to for instance Asian countries) is that the ‘teens’ don’t follow a standard base-10 naming convention.
Obviously, most everybody gets over it, but the idea was that it throws up a roadblock early that must be overcome. And of course, it likely is a ‘just so’ story.
I’ve never heard that. Even if it was true, I have to imagine Common Core would ‘fix’ it. Ignoring Common Core, if kids, in any more than small/niche/private schools were taught to use different names for the same numbers as other kids around the country, wouldn’t we be seeing it the same why we see other regional names for the same thing (ie coke/soda/pop, Grinder/hoagie/sub etc).
But, even if that was the case, Acey specifically said that he knows 11 doesn’t end in teen and therefore he wasn’t a teenager, he just says that he considered himself a teenager at that point in his life because that’s when he started having teen responsibilities, but said it with annoyance that someone would question why he would consider himself a teen at 11. Of course, that makes about as much sense as me wondering why people (hypothetically) are confused if I mention that I’m a senior citizen and later in the same thread say I’m 45, but explain that I retired at 40 so I ‘feel’ like a senior citizen.
Wait, looking back at that thread, even his own explanation doesn’t hold water.
His reply was:
"Yes I understand teen comes from thirteen, fourteen… geez talk about belaboring a point.
What matters is how a family chooses to assign responsibility. 11 was the year that I was allowed to start making choices. Handle a checking account, earn some money, stay up later. My parents trusted me to stay at the house alone without supervision. I wasn’t treated like a child anymore.
I certainly considered myself a teen. Regardless of a silly suffix at the end of a word. "
However, the post he was called out on said “Teens start at 11. I remember turning 11 and being thrilled at becoming a teen.”
Well, which is it? Did he ‘consider himself a teen at 11’ or does ‘teens start at 11’. He both implied that not all 11 year olds are teens and all 11 year olds are teens. Not that he tends to be good with the subtleties of…anything. Perhaps he should have used ‘young adult’. "I considered myself a young adult at 11’ would have made a lot more sense.
Sounds like his parents weren’t much brighter than him – what kind of parent gives an eleven-year-old a checking account? A savings account, I could see, but a checking account?
One reply and I’ll abandon the hijack: The supposition wasn’t that there were different words, its that the words hide the concept. The Asian language (and yes I know there is more than one Asian language, my understanding is that most follow this pattern) word for 11 is (apparently) 1 ten and 1 one. 22 is 2 tens and 2 ones. In English and Spanish (and I’m guessing the rest of the Romance and possibly all European languages), the names don’t start doing that until you reach 100. So the ‘decimalness’ of numbers is to some extent hidden.
As an aside to the hijack, I have a memory of learning the number names, and then deciding to see how far I could count (I was an odd child). I got to 199 and then had to ask someone what came next, since I didn’t know the word and hadn’t made the conceptual leap.
I only know Japanese but your “Asian Numbers” rule works. It goes “ichi, ni, san…” and so forth up to “ju” (which is ten) then eleven is “ju ichi”, twelve is “ju ni”… Twenty is “ni ju” as in “two tens”, and 21 is “ni ju ichi”, and so on. (Though another way of saying “twenty” is “hachi” just to confuse things.)
Has it really been a full year since Acey was last mentioned here?
Here he is today on the term “Colored” (for African-American people). He claims he didn’t even realize it’s a racist term. “How am I supposed to know it’s now considered racist?”
I simply asked a question. I wanted to get other people’s opinions.
How else can I and other people learn? There’s plenty of people out there that wondered about this issue. They don’t stick their necks out by posting.
I get bashed for being out of date. I ask questions, trying to understand something and I get bashed for that.
I’m not defending this journalist. I acknowledged in the OP he used an obsolete word. I thought maybe the station overreacted. I see now that they made the right decision. Their viewers probably feel much the same way as this board.
Well, I will say that you thinking a radio station has viewers these days fits in pretty neatly with the rest of your construction.
I Lol-ed!
It was the statement, “How am I supposed to know it’s now considered racist?”
@aceplace57, I knew it was racist in 1963 the first time I saw it in an obsolete children’s book. How can a person be so out of touch with reality that he doesn’t know this today?
I’m not so sure the SDMB is indeed a place where controversial topics can be discussed in a critical manner. It used to be better for that, now not so much.
^^ Aceplace rarely applies critical thinking before posting his latest recreational outrages, particularly this latest topic.
The news anchor is 26 years old, so he was born two decades after the word became common, according to @aceplace57. (“African-American became common in the 70’s and I switched to that word in high school.”) Whether or not “colored” is racist, even he understands that it’s not common usage.
And now you are getting them. So typical that you aren’t grateful for this continuing education–I mean, most people would just assume you’re being a racist JAQass for even posing the question but you ARE from one of the stupid states and demonstrably pretty fucking dim yourself so you should thank these kind posters for giving you the benefit of the doubt. Me, I just think you’re being a stupid fucking dick trying to stir up shit you know full well is there, then trying to act all innocent when you’re busted in the portapotty with the crusty mookie stick in your hand. Asshole.
Aceplace posts incredibly stupid things that deserve mockery, but fuck that bullshit. He is not stupid because of where he was born or where he lives. And mocking certain states like this creates a ton of resentment that I know from experience makes it harder for me a liberal to convince them to listen to those “coastal elites” or those “liberal in ivory towers.”
Mock the guy all you want, but please leave his state out of it.
Aceplace pretends not to be up to date on terms like “colored”, but is fluent in current psycho right terms like “cancel culture”. Aceplace, go fuck yourself.
What I find absurd is that he considers it “cancel culture” to remove a broadcaster from their job for calling the vice-presidential candidate “colored”. As if they were let go because of the PC police or something.
In his subsequent apology, he used the line "something that I know is not me.”
What the fuck? Why is this in every apology? When did people start thinking it was appropriate to say that what they did wrong was “not me”? Of course it was you! You did it! Otherwise, why are you apologizing?