So are we going to see Hera get yelled at by the New Republic? Which, fair, I guess since it was brought up this week. But this is Ahsoka, not Hera, so on the other hand… why? And if we don’t, why bring it up all? Just some odd choices.
And maybe it’s heretical, but I don’t like Jacen and maybe we could have briefly seen him and left him to be babysat by Zeb.
I am looking forward to next week because at least it seems like it’s going to be new stuff?
So what was that Sith Inquisitor guy exactly? He seemed to just sort of disperse when Ahsoka sliced him. Is there any precedent for this, from Rebels or Clone Wars perhaps?
Unknown, but the best guess is he was a resurrected (from death) Inquisitor under the power of the Witches of Dathomir, of which Morgan Elsbeth is a member.
Sadly, as much as I enjoyed Rebels, it didn’t stick with me. I also didn’t see Clone Wars, so didn’t remember that it had already saved her. Maybe I’m okay with it if it’s shown she has a connection to it.
Overall, though, yes, I don’t like deus ex machina’s. It feels cheap.
Those are also good points. It does seem that some series spread out a bit more. I mean, BoBF had several episodes, the best ones, without BF in them. This series hasn’t exclusively focused on Ahsoka, either.
I thought it weird that they sent three cruisers to return Hera. This isn’t an enemy but one of their own. So that much seemed off. Why not a shuttle? Then, the rank of officer they send, shows the politics. A lowly lieutenant? They are pissed. A captain, they are showing respect but want her back. What they did seemed overkill when they complained about things being spread out.
Thanks for the discussion!
Not just three cruisers… don’t they say it’s Home-1…which is the MAIN Rebel/Republic battleship?
Since I have not seen much of Rebels or Clone Wars…I assumed this was a spirit world and that was Anakin’s force ghost…but I see a lot of references to it actually being some force god from Rebels? And/Or Anakin has now become that force god…::shrug::
And honestly… my feelings on this show are clear (its bad)… but if fans can’t tell if Ahsoka is trying to train Sabine as a Jedi or is just trying to train her to be…better?..the show needs to be clearer in its storytelling and not just go back “Hey remeber The Clone Wars?” or “Hey remember this episode of Rebels?”
I agree but I think the recent episode did a light touch on it (and it is consistent with previous stories).
Very detailed description of the Rebels episode:
While Ahsoka’s name is on the series, and she’s the center of it, it’s become clear that the series, as a whole, is a continuation of Rebels.
It is interesting however that the animated series were, on the whole, much better and more … mature … than the live action ones have been. Dud animated episodes duly acknowledged.
My sense is that the live action are bigger bets, costing more, fewer eps, more on the line, and that as a result the runners are risk averse, falling to safer bets with tried and true tropes and formulae, which paradoxically are less likely to really succeed, even if they also are less likely to completely fail.
This is a fine show. But compared to Ashoka’s CW arc and all of Rebels it is meh, much more high production value old Saturday morning fare. Which again is … fine.
Yes, I’ve definitely noticed how much more story is packed into an episode of Rebels than in an episode of Ahsoka.
Seems fine by me. Makes sense for continuity. Finally some show runner understands that the people who they should cater to are the long time fans who have watched shows like “Rebels” (and also that they are older now and not kids). Those who haven’t seen “Rebels” won’t care but those who have care a lot.
My money is on fewer episodes. All of what you listed matter but, when you have eight episodes and not 15 or 16 per season you are MUCH more limited in how the story is told.
This is a trend I hate. I grew up on 25+ ST:TNG episodes a season and now, these days, they can barely fart out eight episodes and I may need to wait two years for the next bit? Fuck that. It sucks.
It’s fine with me, as well. And, in fact, Ahsoka’s show runner, Dave Filoni, held the same role on Clone Wars and Rebels (and The Mandalorian), so he’s a key part of that continuity.
Only appealing to a base that watched your animated shows is not enough to justify the investment. Ideally the shows work at the level of a new viewer coming in completely naive to any history at all, and have a level of appreciation that established fans pick up on that may be missed by new viewers, working well for them, and serve as entry points for the new fans to go back and watch the previous shows in the spirit of prequels.
Tricky to accomplish but necessary.
I never watched Clone Wars or Rebels and I’m enjoying Ahsoka quite a bit so far.
I don’t buy that.
There are many examples of a series that dumbs things down and pretty much no one likes it.
Stop worrying the audience is stupid. Lean in to what made the books popular. You will nab those who are invested in it and others besides.
We saw this with the first few seasons of “Game of Thrones”. It was successful because it remained hard-core and embraced the complexity in the books. Had they diluted it and tamed it down it would have sucked.
Then we see something like “The Witcher” which was ruined and failed because the show runners felt they needed to alter the source material to be more generically appealing.
Fuck that.
Good thing I didn’t suggest dumbing things down.
Great example currently of hitting the marks in my mind is Lower Decks. Easy to enjoy completely on its own with no past knowledge of Star Trek. Good goofy fun with characters we can care about. Even more fun if you know some of the references. And even more fun knowing that even as a fan of the previous shows you are missing stuff. Note enjoying the show does not require knowing references. OTOH some old eps of different ST properties are getting rewatched and watched for the first time because of some of the references.
Not dumbed down. Just not aimed only at those who are already in group members of the club, no new fans need apply.
To quote a pithy assessment: fuck that.
As mentioned, “Game of Thrones” was a huge success because it didn’t dilute the complexity of the books. Those who had not read the books just had to get themselves up to speed…and it was a huge success…until the end when they gave up on that formula.
There is no gatekeeping. The goal should be to draw people in…not water things down so the barely interested might have a look.
Ah, thanks. I remember now that this was a thing in Fallen Order, although even there I never quite understood how the witches’ magic fit in with the force as it’s usually portrayed.