Ahsoka (trailer in OP, spoilers as series airs)

Maybe she’s just ignorant of the fact not every species has extra-sensory perception organs on their heads. A basic humanoid biology course should probably have been a Jedi Academy prerequisite…

We know so little about the World Between Worlds. Why does it look different here than in Rebels? Is it real or is it a dream? Is it a real-dream like Nightmare on Elm St so if you get hurt in it you get hurt IRL but otherwise is just a dream? Does Anakin look that way because that’s how Ahsoka would imagine he’d look? It’s all very King’s Cross in Deathly Hallows.

Actually, I have it on good authority that Ahsoka is dead now, and is going to be a Force ghost for the remainder of the series.

My source for that is some guy on Facebook, who took time out from his very childish rant about how Luke is ten times the Jedi Ahsoka could ever be, to explain this to me.

If you can’t believe some random guy on Facebook, who can you believe?

I get that guy was being a d-bag but, FWIW, I think Luke is considered the most powerful Jedi ever. Ahsoka should be in any top-10 list though (top 20?).

That’s not being sexist (I really do not care). Just Star Wars lore.

I suspect Ahsoka is destined for greater things too so maybe she will surpass Luke. I dunno. It’ll be fun to see. Loving the show so far. Rosario Dawson is doing a great job with the character. (she’s an underrated actress IMO but that is a different thread).

It just makes little sense to me that Ahsoka who is not a jedi, does not want to be a jedi, and did not like what the jedi became, would be trying to train someone into being one.

She isn’t. The key line is in that conversation with Hyuang after the frustrating training session: “I don’t need her to be a Jedi. I need her to be herself.”

Ahsoka sees the Jedi as a failure. And she is correct. The Jedi way is elitist, keeping use of The Force as something for a chosen few who have special talent, and then distancing them from everyone else. Ahsoka has a more democratic perspective: The Force is not for a Chosen Few alone; all have that connection to various degrees and all can learn to use it to some degree. Sabine is not gifted and will never be a Jedi, but she will learn to utilize the Force sensitivity even she has to become the fullest version of herself.

I mean, they even made Jar Jar a general, didn’t they? So I figure, in a world where there’s a mysterious and opaque energy sort of thing that sometimes seems to enable people to do extraordinary things, maybe you’d just take those that accomplished something unlikely and put them in charge, hoping they’ll continue to systematically roll above the average…

It makes sense in a rebellion to put the people who are getting things done in charge. As we can see it does not always work well when you transition to a normal government. It is not unrealistic though.

I was just reading online that the notes George Lucas gave to JJ Abrams for his vision of the Sequel Trilogy were about how the war was the easy part and now you have to build something new after which is the hard part but JJ looked at all that and said, “No thanks”.

Now that was an intense, epic episode.

Young Ahsoka was played by Ariana Greenblatt, who also played the young Gamora in Avengers: Infinity War.

She was the highlight for me. A great performance.

I’m glad they didn’t have her wearing a Togrutan tube top.

Ahsoka the grey has returned as Ahsoka the white.

“Mom, I know two of your closest friends are missing on this unfamiliar planet and possibly there are evil space wizards and murder robots that may have killed those aforementioned friends around…but can go out and play?”

“Sure thing sweetie.”

I’m glad to read Lucas thought of such things. I still think Zahn’s Thrawn trilogy shows that and also how the Jedi and individuals fit in, or don’t. As well as how much work it would be to make a New Republic. Or that people who still believe in the ideals of the Empire would be out there.

Can you explain why you thought that?

I found it to be off in pacing. I was talking to my friends about the series. When they do non Jedi things, it seems to be well done, and about specific things. When the Jedi get involved, it gets all philosophical but in an unsatisfying way to me.

I noticed this and really want to know more about it. Or maybe I need to rewatch to verify that she picked it out.

I’m think I’m also annoyed by having that in the background. What I took from Ahsoka’s journey was that someone with the Force can’t “just live.” They have to pick, have connections and convictions, and live by them. If anything, it makes Obi Wan a bit more interesting because Obi Wan had convictions but not connections, so still lost the force.

I mean, yes. Of course, the fact that she takes her son on a mission, that part seems completely fine.

Well, he did turn out to be useful. And maybe, on some level, Hera suspected that he would. The kid does have Jedi lineage, after all.

I found it to be off in pacing. I was talking to my friends about the series. When they do non Jedi things, it seems to be well done, and about specific things. When the Jedi get involved, it gets all philosophical but in an unsatisfying way to me.

Same. I cried multiple times watching it. I was emotionally invested in my favorite character but I don’t care about all the rest of it. I don’t know why we had to see so much of Ahsoka putting together what happened to Sabine… we saw it last week!

I have a lot of feelings while I’m watching it, but I never finish it thinking how amazing it is or how I can’t wait until the next one. I cannot stress enough that I don’t dislike it but it’s just a little off in pacing and choices.

But they do make some good choices. The whole Clone Wars scenes were done really well. Just sand and fog so you don’t need to create a whole new planet. And the effects and changes on Anakin were pretty good. But as a plot point, I didn’t need to go to the World Between Worlds again, didn’t need to see them fight again.

Very well said in this! I agree!

It’s like this show isn’t relying on the previously on and tells us the same thing we saw. I mean, in some ways that’s very Star Wars, but I was hoping it wouldn’t do that. There are short hand ways to indicate something happening for a reason.

I agree so much with this! I like it and I like some scenes from it but I’m left with questions.

It feels like they need someone who is good at world building on the team. Or maybe, again, this is me wanting explanations for a Space Fantasy and no writer ever thought of these things.

The purrgil are a good example of this. It would be really interesting to find out that they have some metal and organic parts, which is what allowed them to achieve hyperspace. Heck, maybe even make them bigger so that them needing multiple galaxies works. Or showing that there are some that are as big as an entire star system. Then I want to find out that the purrgil helped start the Old Republic. The purrgil visited a system and the people there scanned them and found what metals were in them and how it created the ability to go into hyperspace and they realized they could replicate it with technology.

I do agree the Clone Wars scenes were done well. Probably helped by their new technology where you can see it. (I never remember the name for it.) I also didn’t World Between Worlds because that seems like a cheat to save Ahsoka. I wanted her to save herself, hanging at some point on the cliff to hide, and having to climb around and get back up to the structure. Maybe, while doing that, she has her own flashbacks or Anakin still visits her to help her, but that’s me.

Thanks for the discussion!

Kind of like the previous time the World Between Worlds was used to save Ahsoka?