Unless you are the author of the linked blog, you are copying and pasting someone else’s work and passing it off as your own.
see yourself, plz
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/faith/abraham_lot/abraham_lot_02.php
Don’t worry, i am the author
That’s what the Koran says. But you were trying to support the idea of Abraham going to Mecca by citing the book of Genesis from the Hebrew bible. And in the book of Genesis, Abraham doesn’t go to Arabia. Arguably, Ishmael does. He and his descendants settle “in the area from Havilah to Shur, near the eastern border of Egypt, as you go toward Ashur”, and the names of his sons were all Arab cities and tribes:
the most famous being Nebaioth. The Kingdom of Nabatea, with its capital of Petra, was a major trading center, and at one point, a major regional power until it was finally taken over by Rome. Also, just to note, all of these represent cities and areas in Northern Arabia, in what’s now Jordan and the Saudi Arabian province of Al-Jawf, nowhere near where Mecca is.
But there’s no evidence in the book of Genesis that Abraham went with Ishmael to Arabia. In fact, it basically says the opposite; that Abraham drove Hagar and her son Ishmael out into the desert.
Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Ibrahim, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding?
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not!
Ibrahim was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah’s (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Ibrahim, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. (Surah Aal-e-Imran: 65-68)
We understand that you believe this. You do not seem to undestand that we believe otherwise.
Since the OP is knowledgeable about multiple religions, perhaps he can assist me with a puzzling theological conundrum.
Last night I added a 4-CD collection called “Memphis Rocks” to my music library. When the songs appeared in Itunes they were classified under the designation “Religious”.
What religion is it that has as its sacred songs “Flip Flop Mama”, “Dixie Fried” and “I Need A Man”?
Thanks for your insight,
Jackmannii
Come on, don’t you believe in the Bible?
Sure, I guess, in a non-literal sort of way. I just don’t assume anyone else does - and I certainly don’t use it as proof in arguments.
Friend,
I value everyone is believing in his own beliefs. But don’t you know well that Qur’an is the only Divine Holy Book which is available in its original language, format & pattern and which has also been learnt by heart by tens of thousands Muslims all over the world throughout?
Nay, Qur’an has been act upon one way or the other continuously without a break by more than a billion Muslims around the globe.
Conversely, none of the bibles is available in its original language. You know well that the present copies have been translated from Greek or Latin languages.
There is no other credible source save the Holy Qur’an. Of course we the Muslims believe so and non Muslims believe otherwise.
Islam, the Only Divine Universal Order
Actually most of the masterminds of minds; Rabbis, Priests & Mullahs have tarnished our minds. So our own thinking power can’t break the hard cover they have spun around our heads.
One of the most critical fallacies that has been saved in the minds by most of the people and intelligentsia even is; the hypothesis, being proliferated far and wide dishonestly that Judaism and Hinduism and sometime Christianity are also counted therewith, are the ancient most religions. And as a consequence thereof Jews, Hindus and Christians are being misconstrued as the ancient most nations respectively. But this is a serious misperception entirely. As a matter of fact it is Islam alone, which is not only the ancient most and the original most religion (which hems-in a complete code of life), but at the same time it is the updated most religion as well. And as it is, Muslim Nation is second to none as an ancient most & original most nation throughout the entire cosmos.
Islam is the foremost, for Islam alone is the God Given Gift among the rest of the religions and ergo Islam is the Divine Religion, which encompasses a complete code of life for the entire creature throughout the universe. And that’s why it is not simply a religion rather ‘the religion’ (viz Al Deen). And this is why it was bestowed upon the first Man viz Father of Humanity, the Prophet Adam (PBUH), when the latter was ordained for dwelling on the earth. Allah (SWT) says: “We said:
"get ye down all from here; and if, as is sure, there comes to you guidance from Me, whosoever follows My guidance, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve”. (Surah Al Baqarah 2-38).
And thus its antiquity goes beyond the humanity itself, for there was no other religion at that time. And ergo Islam is second to none in antiquity as well as integrity.
Now so far its modernity is concerned, Islam is the only latest and state-of-the-art religion, for it was concluded, consolidated, accomplished, updated and made functional by Allah Almighty through His last and latest Prophet, Mohammad (PBUH) himself in all aspects of life. All the Prophets ‘peace be upon them’ were given the task to preach and establish Islam and that’s why, Muslims alone believe in all the Prophets (PBUT). Because all of the Prophets (PBUT), right from the first Prophet, Adam (PBUH) to the last Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) were Muslims and were preaching Islam. Since the Muslims believe in all the Prophets PBUT hence the Muslims alone as a nation is always extraordinarily responsive to the least blasphemy against any of the Prophets PBUT.
Islam, the Lone Divine System of Natural Laws:
One of the basic meanings of Islam is submitting one’s will before the Creator Allah Almighty. So if we cite this basic meaning of Islam then one is left with no option but to say that Islam is virtually a comprehensive ‘Divine Code of Laws’ for all the creatures whatsoever viz the humankind, the animals, botanical life, the organic & inorganic entities in its all manifestations right through the universe. And this is why that all the creatures even the nonliving things follow the ‘Natural System of Divine Laws’ insofar as choice has not been granted to. Right from the tiny atom to the ever spending cosmos, all of them have been obeying the same ‘Religion of Divine Laws’ - the Divine Order without any exception. The entire flora and fauna of the entire universe follow absolutely the instinct code it has been fixed by the Creator, Almighty Allah.
There is absolutely only one God and all the prophets PBUT were appointed and sent by the one Allah Almighty and hence they PBUT brought and taught this only one religion, Islam to the one humanity created from the one parent family, Adam & Eve, in this one world and which has been in implementation as the ‘Divine Order’ mutatis mutandis in the entire universe, as well. Allah Almighty alone has pronounced and proven as such and save Him none has ever pronounced as such.
And so there has been absolutely oneness in Divinity, oneness in parentage of humanity, oneness in the Divine Books viz Al-Kitab, oneness in the preaching of the Prophets teachings, oneness in the composition of humanity, oneness in composition of natural living world, oneness in composition of natural nonliving world, oneness in the entire living beings, oneness in the universal facts, oneness in the scientific proven facts, oneness in the basics of morality, oneness in the natural laws, oneness in life, oneness in the fatality of all the creature, oneness in behavior of living as well as nonliving beings!!!
If ‘they’ want to trace the trails of humanity in terms of race the matter goes back to the father of humanity, viz Prophet Adam PBUH and if ‘they’ want to trace the trails of humanity in terms of religion the matter goes back to the Prophet Adam PBUH, whose religion was Islam!!! And above all, there is oneness in nature, oneness in the universe and oneness in the perfect knowledge; and Allah Almighty alone has claimed from the very beginning that He is the Creator of all beings & things whatsoever; organic or inorganic and that He alone has power all over creatures. For instance:
“Praise be to Allah, Who created (out of nothing) the heavens and the earth, Who made the angels, messengers with wings, two, or three, or four (pairs): He adds to Creation as He pleases: for Allah has power over all things. (Al Qur’an 35:1)
And none has ever claimed so let alone doing so. And as much as the mystery discloses all of the ‘Divine Proclamations’ are proved one by one.
Being the Divine Laws, Allah Almighty alone can amend or suspend the ‘Natural Laws’ and no one else can interfere in the realm. For instance according to natural law fire has been devised to scorch everything but it did not do that when Allah Almighty suspended this rule of fire in the case of Prophet Ibrahim PBUH, which had been ignited by his deniers for burning him (PBUH). Allah Almighty says: the Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) refused to lay His will before the then pagan Assyrian ruler, Nimrud. Hence his (PBUH) deniers responded with igniting fire for him (PBUH). Allah Almighty refers to;
“So naught was the answer of (Abraham’s) people except that they said - “Slay him or burn him.” But Allah did save him from the fire. “Verily in this are Signs for people who believe” (Al Qur’an 29:24).
Allah Almighty says further; “We said: O fire, be coolness and peace for Abraham” (Al Qur’an 21:69).
Similar exceptions from the ‘Divine Natural Laws’ known as ‘Miracles of the Prophets’ have been bestowed by Allah Almighty to almost all of His Prophets (PBUT).
How does one show this? So far it does not appear you are convincing many people.
Is this the origin of the phrase “get down”? Fascinating.
As the latter day prophets* have said,
What you gonna do? You want to
get down? - Tell me.
*Kool & The Gang
Dear, convincing others in terms of ideologies particularly in beliefs is an uphill task.
Perhaps you know, The Magnificent Prophets; Ibrahim PBUH could not convince his loving father; Azar (viz Terah), Prophet Lot PBUH could not his loving son; Canaan, Prophet Mosa PBUH could not the King Pharaoh and Prophet Mohammad could not his friendliest uncle; Abu Talib, father of Ali (may Allah be pleased with him).
And all those Magnificent Prophets PBUT found the right path given Allah Almighty’s extraordinary favor.
I have read the Tanakh in Hebrew - its original language, unchanged since a thousand years before the birth of Mohammed. So really, you’re not impressing anyone.
dear, I am not out to impress others, rather I am telling what I think better for me, my family & others .
Rabb-al-Aalameen - Lord for all Worlds:
Allah Almighty is the ‘Rabb-al-Aalameen’ viz ‘Lord of the worlds’. Allah Almighty therefore Says in the Holy Qur’an:
“Whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare the Praises and Glory of Allah. To Him belongs dominion, and to Him belongs praise - and He has power over all things”. (Surah At-Taghabun: 64 -1)
Rahmat-al-lil-Aalameen - Mercy for all Worlds:
Likewise His last Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) is the Universal Prophet and thus Allah Almighty says: “We sent thee (Mohammad) not, but as a Mercy for all creatures” (viz Rahmat-al-lil-Aalameen) (Holy Qur’an 21:107).
Nay,
“We have not sent you (Mohammad) but as a Messenger to all mankind, giving them glad tidings, and warning them (against sin), but most of men know not.” (Surah Saba, 34:28).
Nay,
“Say (O Mohammad): 'O mankind! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth.” (Surah A’raf: 7-157)
Hidayat-al-lil-Aalameen - Guidance for all Worlds:
And so is the ‘Religion Islam’ which is the Universal Religion hence Allah Almighty says in the Holy Qur’an:
“Verily this (Islam) is no less than a message to all the worlds.” viz Hidayat-al-lil-Aalameen - (Surah Atakwir: 81-27).
Similarly Allah Almighty says further; “The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bekka (Mecca) - Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings” ( Surah Al-Imr’an: 3-96).
And so all the creatures, whatsoever, whosesoever, wheresoever, howsoever and whensoever are bound to bow their will before the Divine Will of the Allah Almighty, wherever there is no option from the Allah Almighty.
Right from the tiny atom to the massive celestial bodies in the immeasurable and ever expending cosmos has been complying absolutely with the Divine Order since their creation. Similar has been the case in living beings right from the tiny cells to the gigantic living beings.
At whatever time, if life traces will be found somewhere else in other planets, anywhere in the universe, Islam will be the ‘Divine Order’.
That’s commendable.
Still, it won’t prevent me from pointing out that the single provable fact you’ve presented in this thread, is wrong.
Including, as I understand it, a fair number who don’t actually read or speak Arabic but have merely learned to parrot the verses phonetically. Is that superior to reading something in translation?
Opinions will, I suspect, differ.