Last posted Feb 28. In this thread.
That’s a while indeed.
Yea, that’s around the time of the massive data breach in which the voter information data for every single voter in the province was leaked to the Centurion Project - the separatist movement who were collecting signatures for their campaign.
Makes one wonder.
Naked attempt by fascist UCP to gerrymander Alberta elections.
Some of the proposed maps for Edmonton, Red Deer and Calgary are just insane and obvious gerrymandering.
This just should never happen in Canada. This is entirely unacceptable.
As if they weren’t cheating enough already, what with special considerations and lower tally counts for their separatist friends.
Lethbridge also. It currently has two ridings, both within the city. Under Smith’s plan, it would now have four, all of which would extend into rural areas.
Jason Kenney and Keith Wilson debate last week over Alberta independence.
Very short format without either being able to make their case effectively. Both admitted that Ottawa has been unfair to Alberta.
Jason’s take was we had to fight to get what we want and that we can see that with the changes coming now and that even the talk of independence caused instability and chaos will ensure if it proceeds. At the end fearmongering with references to Oka, etc. But I did agree with his suggestions about moving pensions to Alberta and the provincial police force.
Keith, was more optimistic. Essentially, why do we have to fight with Ottawa when they should support us, we have the third largest oil and gas reserves in the world along with all the other resources that Alberta has and they will still exist once we are independent. He didn’t address Native issues, and should have at least made the case for it being better for them under a prosperous Alberta.
Well, given that Danielle Smith proposed legislation that said that Alberta was not obliged to abide by Supreme Court rulings and essentially that Alberta did not have to abide by the federal laws of Canada, I think it’s pretty clear where this unhinged lunatic stands on the matter of separatism.
Welcome back, Uzi.
What legislation and what laws did she say she didn’t have to abide by? What should be the penalty?
Follow on interview with Keith Wilson answering some of the questions time constrained within the debate above.
Perhaps you haven’t heard of the Alberta Sovereignty Act which Smith proposed and championed to successful passage in 2022. It states that Alberta doesn’t have to abide by any federal laws or Supreme Court rulings that it doesn’t like. Former premier Jason Kenney, who is no liberal, called it a “full-frontal attack on the rule of law” and a step towards separation and a “banana republic”.
She’s also been pretty reckless about defying her own province’s courts.
There’s no rats in Alberta! https://www.alberta.ca/history-of-rat-control-in-alberta
And what should be the consequence of violating her own court?
What should be the consequence is removal from party leadership by the members of her caucus and the party who see that this is a violation of the rule of law, and something that should not be tolerated.
What will happen is… Nothing.
Since when is any court a department within the executive? It is not “her” court.
I think a lot of what’s wrong with RW thinking all over the world, not just in Alberta, stems from this idea that there is, or ought to be, a dictator at the top that the entirety of government answers to unquestioningly.
It’s not her own court. And the consequence of her violating “her own” court is that we get to live under a right-wing authoritarian government run by lying corrupt fools.
What does that have to do with anything? You questioned my assertion that Smith intends not to abide by federal laws or court rulings that she didn’t like, and I cited the Act that she pushed through the Alberta legislature that (unconstitutionally) empowers this lawless lunatic to do exactly that. She’s also ignoring an Alberta court ruling that she doesn’t like. Note that I said “defying her own province’s courts”, not “her court”. As others have noted, an independent judiciary is foundational to a functional democracy, but right-wingers seem to have little regard for either.
But since you ask, this recent court ruling effectively makes the proposed separation referendum illegal under the current circumstances, until and unless all affected parties have been consulted and their objections satisfactorily addressed. If that never happens, so be it. Until then, or until Smith wins the appeal to the ruling, the referendum should not be held, and if Smith bulldozes ahead anyway she should at the very least face contempt charges, potentially be removed from office, and the results invalidated.
I note with some amusement that Smith has vowed to take the appeal all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada, the institution whose legitimacy she explicitly disavowed – unless, of course, they happen to agree with her, and then they’re terrific and must be respected!
Well at least it is unlikely to cost us $34B when the last government failed to consult someone.
How about the people in government who violated the rights of the convoy protestors? When the case finally is upheld by the supreme court, the case being pushed there at this point as Carney doesn’t agree with the previous rulings from ‘his government’s courts’ will they be held in contempt? Are they lawless lunatics?
Consulting doesn’t mean their objections are satisfactorily addressed, it means that their objections have been addressed even if the outcome is I have heard you, I understand you have concerns, but we don’t have an answer now. Consultation doesn’t mean issues are resolved. It also doesn’t mean you have a veto if you don’t like the answer.
Quebec did similar after the Clarity act was passed stating it was Federal over-reach and only Quebecers will determine if they stay within Canada, as it should be.