There are ways to discuss legitimate grievances, without actually threatening to burn the house down.
Every. Single. Province. has legitimate grievances.
And in terms of Russian interference… I think there is some credible evidence. Reposting this link that Wolfpup provided: the authors have experience and credibility.
Here’s a part of the executive summary for you:
Russia’s engagement with Alberta separatism is covert, it appears doctrinal,
operational, and sustained. Russian government strategy has long emphasized
exploiting divisive issues within Western democracies. Several lines of evidence link
Russian-aligned information infrastructure to Alberta separatist narratives, including
Storm 1516-linked websites and social media accounts, early attention to Wexit by
Sputnik, and a sustained pattern of Alberta-focused content across the Pravda News
Network.
● The Pravda News Network provides especially important evidence of Russian
narrative infrastructure. Between December 24, 2025, and April 25, 2026, “Alberta,”
“Albertans,” and “51st state” were the subject of 67 articles in Pravda’s Canada section,
compared with only 14 mentions of Ontario. The content repeatedly portrays Alberta
separatism as popular, Alberta as economically exploited, and foreign support or
recognition as plausible
But you won’t listen, or make a change, until that happens.
Every. Single. Province. has legitimate grievances.
If they are legitimate and not being addressed then what is the point of the country? Or, are they only legitimate if some liberal says they are legitimate, otherwise they are ignored.
Whenever a significant number of people live together, there are going to be legitimate grievances; because people vary.
And some of them are by their nature not going to be resolvable to the complete satisfaction of all parties. Because, again, people vary.
Such things should be addressed, in the sense of discussing them, because sometimes the situation can be improved. But “addressed” doesn’t mean doing exactly what one party wants on all issues, to the exclusion of what anybody else wants; so there are always going to still be people in multiple groups displeased about something. And “addressed” doesn’t mean going over and over the same arguments to the exclusion of getting anything else done.
You seem to think that the separatists are entitled to address First Nation objections by noting them and then ignoring them. Why do you think your side is entitled to do that to other people, but nobody’s entitled to do it to you?
The issue isn’t whether Indigenous concerns are legitimate. They are. The question is why concerns about a future process are treated as requiring intervention before a question can be asked, while concerns about existing federal policies that directly affect Alberta’s economy, and have to the point of billions of dollars being lost, are often dismissed as something Albertans just have to live with. If legitimacy of grievances is the standard, it should apply consistently.
Oh yeah, Albertans have absolutely historically been oppressed by the federal government more than indigenous peoples have been, and it’s about damn time something was done about it.
I didn’t argue that Albertans have been oppressed more than Indigenous peoples. I asked what the purpose of a federation is if member provinces have legitimate, long-standing grievances that cannot be meaningfully addressed.
Those are different questions.
The existence of serious historical injustices against Indigenous peoples doesn’t automatically mean Alberta’s concerns are invalid. Likewise, Alberta having concerns doesn’t diminish Indigenous history.
A federation doesn’t require everyone to be perfectly happy. It does require people to believe that their concerns can influence outcomes. If a growing number of Albertans no longer believe that, then that’s a problem worth discussing on its own merits rather than comparing who has suffered more.
It’s interesting that asking whether Alberta’s concerns are being addressed gets translated into a claim that Alberta is more oppressed than Indigenous peoples. Those aren’t remotely the same argument.
A while back, we heard about Youtube posters creating clips about how they were real Albertans who wanted separatism and talked all about how unfair the federal government was. Turns out they were paid content providers, or even AI avatars. They were paid/created to promote separatist views, and pushed false statistics and other crap.
Now, it seems that there are paid promoters on Facebook (what a shock!) from India, Pakistan, Indonesia who pretend to be from Alberta, promoting separatism.
For example, Nieta Aqila from Indonesia, was paid to say how “Canada is not a great country anymore,” and how she had rocks thrown at her when she campaigned for the separatist petition.
She has never set foot in Canada.
I think we need to follow the money, and find out who is paying these fake Albertans to spread lies.
It now seems there are paid promoters on Facebook (what a shock) from the US and other places who pretend to be from Canada, promoting the leader from a fringe political party bent on destroying Canada.
I think we need to follow the money, and find out who is paying these fake Canadians to spread lies.
(I’m betting on Brookfield).
Seriously, this just showed up on facebook. Given that I don’t use Facebook much, and certainly not for anything political, I have to wonder that if this shows up on my feed how many others are getting it? I have never seen anything on facebook related to what you linked to above.
What is your obsession with Brookfield? They are a $1T company with investments in energy, real estate, infrastructure, and tourism. Their sole goal is to make money for investors, pure capitalism.
I’m using it as a clear example of potential conflict of interest for our PM who moved the company from Canada for a better economic environment to make money for their investors, pure capitalist motivations. It is a known relationship to him rather than nebulous and conspiracy theory relationships being put forward for independence proponents used by fear mongers to insinuate bad actions and on their part without a shred of proof.
But why not acknowledge my point, that people will use about anything going on in the world to make a buck? Did you not make that connection? Or did it just not fit the narrative?
While this is a common conservative talking point, Carney did not move Brookfield to the US. It is still headquartered in Toronto. One of its subsidiaries, Brookfield Asset Management, of which Carney was the appointed chairman, was moved to NYC in late 2024, and Carney resigned a couple of months later. While I am not privy to the internal management of the company, it is highly likely that Carney and the rest of the board of directors were told to do so by the parent corporation.
This is the mantra of the far right. You see it on every conversation in social media where they hate Carney with the passion of a thousand burning suns. It’s all they have.
How interesting. I would imagine that it is the exact same foreign people who are pushing Alberta separatism; their goal is to cause dissent and split Canadians. The reason you are getting it in your feed is that you’ve been identified as clicking on separatist links.
This post in your feed is designed to get you angry, and to make you post angry comments (hint; look at the comments in that post). This helps divide Canadians. This is the goal of these kind of posts.
This is a pretty common trick by foreign sources in the last US elections.
Numbers are expected to be low at the moment as the fearmongers are starting to get their message across. They are backed by government money. The independence movement, contrary to the conspiracy nuts, is a grass roots movement and largely self funded.
Example: Smith saying the bill could be as high as $400B. Initially I thought this was ridiculous, but it could be when you add in our share of the national debt. The actual story is that we already have our share of the national debt being part of Canada. So, the reality is the number is already there and is being used to scare us. It should scare us. It should scare us right now separate or not.
Additionally, there is no reason that we should assume our ‘share’ of the national debt is a given. That is part of the negotiations at the time of succession. Our starting position is all the money taken as equalization from Albertans offsets our share of the debt or federal regulations driving $600B from Alberta in the last decade covers it. But assured it is unlikely to be a per capita distribution as Albertans didn’t receive a per capita benefit.
Just saw a letter from the MP for Calgary Signal Hill that he sent to all his constituents. This Conservative MP laid out clearly why many of the separatist arguments are either wrong, or completely bogus.
I guess this long time Conservative is a “fearmonger”
Fearmongers come in many forms. Which conservative MP’s are for independence? None of them because they know they’d never form another government without Alberta’s votes. None of them, without scaremongering, without appealing to nostalgia or how we just have to ‘fight’ to make Canada to understand our concerns and do something about it can give a reason that Alberta wouldn’t be better off without the anchor of Canada holding us down. Even if that happens none of them can answer what happens when the next generation of Turdeau grows up, someone with even better hair and less black face, gets into power won’t reverse it all again. I’m not sure why we have to ‘fight’ with fellow Canadians to produce our resources that they benefit from.
If you have an argument with your spouse, then what is the point of a marriage? If a child has an argument with their parents, then what is the point of a family?
This Alberta separation treasonous nonsense makes me sick, especially the extent to which it’s being promoted and funded by overseas seditionists intent on destroying my country.