Am I overreacting? (a dating q - long)

I met a guy recently who I like(d) a lot. We’ve been hanging out, flirting, getting to know each other, doing other misc. cutesy type boy/girl who have crushes on each other stuff. He finally asked me out and we had our first official “date” on Saturday. The date went well.

Then last night we were talking on the phone when I mentioned that I was having a drink. He seemed shocked and sickened by this. “My opinion of you has just been drastically lowered,” he told me. Whoa, whuh err… uhh… Huh? Drastically lowered? What’d I do? Turns out that my drinking alone is a serious problem. Perhaps heavy drinking alone on a regular basis is, yes, but that’s hardly the case with me. I’m not an alcoholic. I never have been, and I seriously doubt I ever will be. I was having a drink. Not that big of a deal. I explained this to him, but was cut off by wild stories of people he used to know who got caught up in drugs and alcohol. That’s terrible. Really, but I don’t have a problem with drugs or alcohol. I don’t do any drugs, never have, and usually only drink in social settings. Occasionally, I will sit at home and pour myself a drink, but I would hardly consider that a problem. Again, I explained this to him, but he didn’t seem to interested in what I had to say. Apparently I’m depressed and have all these issues and am destroying myself. Then I started getting irritated. “Lissssten to me,” I hissed, “This is stupid. We do NOT need to be having this conversation. I am not a boozehound, mmkay?” He gave me a verbal shrug of the shoulders and told me everything wass perfectly okay except that he thought I was “better than that” and that his opinion of me had been “lowered” a lot.

Ouch. That one stung. I was feeling hurt, angry and drunk all at the same time. Why was he being such an asshole? So I asked him. “Why are you being such an asshole?” to which he responded, “I’m not, I just felt let down. I thought you were a smart girl.” Oh for the love of Christ, I couldn’t belieeeeeve he was making such a big deal out of this. I guess the real problem is I wanted this guy to like me, and he was getting all crazy when I didn’t even do anything. I was frustrated and angry and ended up telling him to stop being such a “judgemental fuck.” I didn’t like the way I was being pigeoholed as an alky, primarily because I am not one. He was “let down” by me because of an issue I do not frickin’ have. This is coming from a man who smokes cigarettes, by the way. Cigarettes! So he can pump ammonia into his blood stream on a daily basis, but I can’t sit down on a Sunday night and pour myself a rum and coke? Oh, but the difference is, he says, cigarettes don’t put him in an altered state. So? There are so many things wrong with that statement, that I won’t even start. So I didn’t start.

I got sick and tired of that discussion and his judgement, so I told him we needed to end that topic right then and there. We tried to switch subjects, but by then I was already flustered and irritated. I was clearly annoyed, giving one word responses to everything he said. Eventually, I got sick of hearing the sound of his voice, mumbled a good bye and hung up the phone. He called again today, but I really wasn’t too keen on hearing anything he had to say. Again, I was being short with him. He told me not to be mad and that I was too sensitive. Maaaaan, whatever, I wasn’t in the mood to talk to him.

I don’t think I’m conveying how I felt too well. Imagine you are really getting into someone and he is getting into you. Everything is going swell until one night you go out and you, say, order a drink. He seems disgusted by you. “Oh man, I used to like you, but now you go and do something like this. I don’t know how I feel about you anymore.” You two were really starting to like each other, and he loses it over something stupid. Wouldn’t that hurt and piss you off at the same time? Is it just me? He’s been trying to talk to me, so I gather he still wants to have something to do with me, but now I’m not sure how willing I am to deal with him. Maybe if he would apologize or at least admit that he was being a jerk, I’d feel differently. But right now, I feel saddened and angry. I stopped talking to the guy. I won’t speak to him on the phone and I won’t answer his e-mails. Am I overreacting?

It sure doesn’t sound like a great start. No, I don’t think you’re overreacting.

Good luck.

Judging by your profile, you’re not a kid, so I think he’s freaking out a bit. If you got drunk by yourself on a regular basis, there’d be a problem, if you binge drunk, I could see an issue, but you weren’t overreacting, I’d say. The thing is, some people just can’t be around people who drink…at all. If he is one of those people, then just kiss him goodbye and move on.

Nope, not overreacting. He was being judgemental. I’d be willing to bet that if he is this judgemental (and vocal about it early on), it would not get much better.
And, yes, it is hypocritical for him to pass judgement on you for drinking as he lights up a smoke.

Is he a recovering alcoholic? I’ve been accused of the same things as you for having a glass of wine occasionally, at home alone. By occasionally I mean once or twice a month. Seems he is the one with issues.

I was thinking along the same lines as peri. I once worked with a guy who quit the company because he “couldn’t stand the alcoholic culture” (i.e. one night a week we went out for a couple - a COUPLE! - pints after work). Turned out his entire family were alcoholics. So that might explain his problem with drinking. It doesn’t, however, explain his rude and judgemental behaviour towards you, which I think is the much bigger problem. People like this don’t get better the closer you get to them. Run away now.

I thought you were dating my ex-boyfriend until I read the part about the smoking. I wouldn’t think too highly of someone that regularly got plastered, but I don’t really understand some people’s issue with having one or two drinks from time to time. My ex is just like that.

I’m drinking a beer right now (alone.) So I’m guessing that you can see who I’m gonna side with… :wink:

But even if I weren’t drinking, I think the man has issues of his own. His reaction seems to me to be rather over the top. If I were you I’d take a serious step backwards and check this man out with a very critical eye.

No, you’re not overreacting, he’s being a jerk. Perhaps there’s a good reason, but without in-depth knowledge, that’s my response. His experience does not mean YOU have a problem. If you’re lucky, he’ll figure that out, if not, it’s his problem. The smoking things IS rather ironic. :stuck_out_tongue:

Dump his ass. I’ll drink to that.

-FK

Heh, okay, so I’m not upset over nothing. It really chapped my hide the way he was so damn quick to judge me and get nasty. I think he has known a few people with alcohol problems, as he immediately yammered on about disappointed he was with me and made with stories of people he has known who have ruined their lives with booze. I tried to explain the difference between those people and myself, who was having a freakin’ drink alone for the first time in a while. I don’t think he gets it. Aggh, I don’t feel like dealing with him anymore. And I liked him so dang much 24 hours ago. Heh, funny how that works.

He’s been e-mailing me for the past hour, asking me to respond to him. He finally provoked me with his last letter which read “Come on get over it already.”

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If I were you, for curiousity’s sake, I’d try to figure out what this guy’s problem is. Would I get involved with him? Not if he was going to try and make me feel guilty for something as silly as that.

Woah! No, you’re not over-reacting. What is the guy’s problem with an adult having a drink by themselves? My opinion? His problem isn’t with your drinking. He sounds like the judgemental sort that would be “let down” by anything. If it wasn’t you having a drink the other night it would just be something else equally as ridiculous.

Sheesh, I’m not even going to start with how insane it is for him to be let down by that, or to think that it makes you less intelligent.

My words of advice rhyme with “Rump bim.” Or, you could come up to him some time when he’s smoking and start badgering him about how he’s disappointed you…

Aside from his weird opinion of alchohol, the guy has insulted you for no reason. If you keep seeing him, he’s going to keep insulting and verbally abusing you. He’a an abuser. Stay away!!!

You got lucky that he showed his colors this fast. If he were an okay person, and I don’t think he is, he might have said something like, “I’m very sensitive to alcohol issues, so bear with me because drinking alone is a big issue with me, though I realize that it’s not necessarily a problem for everyone…” etc. Instead he got completely judgmental on you. The drinking issue aside, he’s rude and self-centered, so it’s good you got out as fast as you have.

You have, right? You’re not thinking of going back for more, are you?

My mother’s parents were alcoholics and died from it. I can see a similar judgement coming from her, she’s super sencitive about drug/alcohol issues (though it includes smoking in her case). Not that my mother would be so rude/forthright as to express her disappointment in that way, but those sentiments would be there.

You may not have a problem with alcohol, I doubt that you do, actually. But people with up close knowledge of bad things will watch for the warning signs and avoid them in the future. People abused as children will judge you on how you handle your pets, people with alcoholic families will get edgy if you drink by yourself, etc. And yes, he’s probably overreacting in this case, but it is a warning sign of something he obviously wants no part of ever again.

This “warning sign” about overreacting from one small issue is well evidenced above with ratatoskK’s post, “Aside from his weird opinion of alchohol, the guy has insulted you for no reason. If you keep seeing him, he’s going to keep insulting and verbally abusing you. He’a an abuser. Stay away!!!”

Using similar logic it is easy to qualify your drinking habits as similarly dangerous.

MeanOldLady, put me down as one more person who thinks he’s a self-righteous twit. If he’d told me, "I thought you were a smart girl, " I would probably have told him I was, and that I was smart enough to know what addictive behaviour entailed, what was entailed in ending it, and not to indulge in it. If I was annoyed enough, I might have added something to the effect of “unlike someone who smokes cigarettes.” Right now, I’d say you’re best bet is to tell him you thought better of him before his priggish behaviour.

Marley, I’ve got just one question for you: “Rump bim”?:confused: Do I even want to know what this is? :wink:

CJ

MOL Dump him. Quick. Been there, did that, married it, have a t-shirt to prove it. Also have the divorce papers. They didn’t come with a t-shirt.

And email me if you want to talk or vent about it. :slight_smile:

Siege - you asked:

No, No you don’t. :wink:

It’s my experience that people who say “you’re too sensitive” are not willing to take responsibility for how their behavior affects others. The “get over it” adds to that impression. I would not want to be involved with someone who would not be willing to consider my feelings or alter his actions when he knew I was upset… especially so early in a relationship. Having issues with something is one thing. Not being willing to be responsible for those issues, or to admit they might be overreacting - that’s a whole other thing.