Victoria is way to passive to do that. She is the sponge that absorbs his constant abuse. And I’m sure if he was reading the map then Jonathan would yell at her for her driving.
I talked with Karen’s husband at the fan finale party for TAR5, and he said that as a fireman, he’d taken Karen and Linda out and spent a couple of months working with them on ropes – but the one thing he didn’t teach them was the ascender because it never occurred to him they’d need that. So even being well-prepared isn’t always enough!
My guess is that either Norse Fern’s dad was following them and collected his son, or else there was public transportation available that he could grab to get home. They weren’t all that far out of the city at the overnight.
More of my favorite lines or events from this episode?
Lori: “But doesn’t Accuracy mean you gotta be accurate?”
Freddie, on being ordered by Jonathan to get all the packs out of the boat: “Get your own *(&@$ pack.”
MJ ripping into Don for just coopting the Roadblock in violation of their pre-Race agreement – although it sounded to me like he’d been there many years earlier and really, really wanted to go up the ski jump again.
MJ then reminding Don that she’d spent a semester doing archery in college and never hit the target one single time: “How many times have I told you that story?”
The look on the Mormon sisters’ faces when Jonathan was screaming – Lena the party girl laughing, Kristi the devout Mormon mom looking absolutely horrified.
Adam, he of the hair horns, flailing about and shrieking for his mommy all the way down the zip line.
Hera and Gus absolutely smoking that Accuracy Detour.
Aaron (I think?) taking some fabulous pratfalls on his roller skis – I was falling off the sofa laughing at him!
This was a really good episode, all issues of bunching aside.
And I think the producers said there would be fewer opportunities to use the Yield or the Fast Forward in this Race, too, but we’ll probably see them eventually. There is, of course, an obvious target for a Yield. Soon, I devoutly hope.
TAR noob alert. I assume a fast forward lets the team skip a stop? So what’s a yield?
Loving this show btw, so much better than Survivor and The Apprentice this year.
A YIELD allows one team to stall another team for a prescribed amount of time. The team that gets Yielded must simply stand there and watch while his/her opponents scurry to finish tasks that they cannot even begin. The Yielded team always knows which team put the Yield on them. . . and it can make for some fun revenge! Should definitely be used with caution and much later in the race.
A Fast Forward allows a team to perform one task and skip ahead to the Pit Stop if they’re successful. But if they’re not, they have to go back and do the tasks they would have skipped, which may put them behind other teams. A team can only take one Fast Forward per race.
A Yield allows a team to delay another team. When they get to the Yield, each team has a selection of photos from each of the remaining teams to choose from. If they choose to yield a team, they put the photo of that team up on the Yield sign and a photo of themselves so the other team knows who yielded them, then flip the sand-timer. The timer varies with each Yield, so one Yield may delay the team chosen for 30 seconds, and another for 10 minutes. Teams can also choose not to yield anyone. The Yield was only used once last season (the season it was introduced), by Chip & Kim (the winners) to delay Colin & Christie (the 2nd place finishers).
Where did you get this information? I never heard of it, and assumed all Yield timers were identical. (Not that we’ve seen much Yield strategy so far…heh.)
About the Fast Forward: In the first four Races, there was a FF on every leg except the final two. This added a strategic element since it allowed trailing/non-competitive teams to catch up. (Not that it’s a guarantee of first place…in two cases, the team which took the FF ended up finishing LAST!) Starting with last season, though, there are only two FFs in the whole race. So, obviously, the lead team will always take it whether they need it or not. I still hate this rule change. :mad:
Thanks for the info guys. 
I’m now praying for a yield. Any chance any of the other teams wouldn’t use it on Team Botox? 
That was the way I remembered Phil explaining it last time. I may be wrong. But it would add a bit of caution to choosing to use the Yield, especially if the yielding team doesn’t know how long this particular Yield is until they decide whether they want to use it or not.
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And after searching for the official game rules all over the damn place, I can’t find it. The website is noncommital on this. I could very well be completely wrong on this point.
I think there is no doubt that the car had to be returned, as someone mentioned you can’t just take their stuff…sunglasses, maps, etc. Also it creates confusion downt the line, cuzthen that team needs to tkae a car and they might take the wrong one, etc. Also, those cars may be fleet vehicles, meaning they may all have the same keys.
On the yield times: When Phil first introduced them last season, he said that times might vary. This point wasn’t emphasized when yields were used later on – because they’re often being coy about what time differentials are during the actual running of the leg.
The asshat, Jonathan, is claiming that the editing is making him look bad. From Team Botox’s official website:
Wow – Jonathan’s not taking responsibility for being a world-class asshole? Imagine my astonishment!
Excellent find, lisacurl!
How about when he was shrieking at her about his sunglases - she had suggested he take them off in the boat and then he forgot them, and then he reamed her out in the car.
And when Jonathan and Victoria got to the Viking Village, I thought the Mormon sisters were looking at Victoria like she needed to be whisked away to a battered women’s shelter right away - they definitly thought Jonathan was nuts with his yelling and demanding an apology. Scary.
I’m wondering if the Racers know beforehand that each one can only do six Roadblocks. What if one person does their six, then tries to do another, only to be told, “Sorry, your teammate has to it” ?
I’m guessing that they did. It would explain why MJ was annoyed that she didn’t do the Roadblock at the ski jump.
I assumed that they left all their cars (with keys) at the beginning of the mission and, while they were competing their cars were moved for them to the finish line. That might explain why they wouldn’t know which one was theirs - they didn’t park them. I haven’t re-watched the episode, so I can’t say for sure if the place they left the cars is the same as where they picked them up again.
She did say later she wanted to do the ones the didn’t involve strength. I’m guessing they already know about the six-each Roadblock limit, but it would be pretty interesting if they didn’t.
The assholes always complain about the editing.
Yep. The Reality Show Asshole Editing Principle: If you don’t say it, they can’t show it. So no matter how bad it makes you look, even if you are a saint 95% of the time, they can’t show you being an ass unless you are, in fact, at least occasionally, an ass. Jonathan can say he doesn’t act like that all the time, but he can’t deny that during the parts they show, he’s an ass. Don’t want to be shown as an ass on national TV? Don’t act like one!
And it’s really hard to see this as editting. While I can believe Jonathan doesn’t treat his wife like that continually the fact remains that he did treat his wife like that. He might not constantly belittle her but he did an awful lot of it on camera. Yeah you can capture a bad portion to make a person look not so nice but when what was captured was this bad its hard to believe that it is just the result of editting.
Oh, it gets worse: Jonathan came out of lurk today (he’s been lurking under a variety of nics on forums all over the web for at least a month – you can tell it’s him because he praises himself in his posts and he always spells “does” as “dose”) over at the Tarflies forum and is now posting under his own name. And he claimed today that not only is it editing, but when he conked Victoria on the head with the hatchback door and, in spite of her cries of pain, not only didn’t check to see how she was but didn’t even apologize? He really did apologize, but those evil editors left it out! Yeah, right. And how long was Victoria crying, “Ow!” in a nonstop camera shot with him doing nothing but yell at her? Rules there prohibit telling him what I think of him (not that I would; my preferred policy is shunning), but a liar by any other name is still a liar.
I really cannot WAIT to see him gone. I’m hoping that CBS is lurking on the various forums to catch idiots like him out who violate their contract (which, as was confirmed for me just yesterday by a TAR5 Racer who’s a friend of mine) by posting on forums without CBS’s permission and/or prior to being eliminated. I’d love to see them impose that $10 million penalty they keep waving around in their Racer contracts. It couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.