American Idol 2/9-10

The girl that had the white blond hair…I think Lily was her name…I never saw her in a group? Did they just not show footage of all of them?

No need to be such a Debbie Downer. These threads are a lot better when there’s snark.

I don’t mind snark on the singing or personalities, but going after somebody for being “fuggo” seems a bit juvenile. Not as bad as arbitrarily calling somebody a “pedo,” which is just utterly classless and boorish. Maybe people should just ask themselves whether or not a particular snide remark is clever or funny or simply vicious and childish. But far be it from me to down any boat. I just feel like these threads used to be a bit more grown up than the kind of shit you see on youtube comments.

I think the judges made good choices. I can’t think of anyone they cut who I didn’t think deserved cutting.

I was mad they didn’t show his singing at all this week. He’s my favorite.

Did Crystal make it? What about the single mom? I don’t know these people enough to recognize them once they dress all different and have their hair styles changed. I think I saw Crystal in the background of a group that made it but I’m not sure

No, they never were. You’re misremembering. We have never been any better. Especially not me.

You don’t need to defend AI contestants. They’re horrible, awful people. They deserve it. It’s not like we’re killing them or burning crosses on their lawns. We’re making fun of them on a message board. I’ve read interviews with Simon where even he says that he says that the majority of them are despicable, self-centered people, and that’s why he has no guilt about being brutal to them.

The group dynamic reveals how difficult they will be to work with. Some of them blow up the group . That is bad for the rest, but they have to have some confidence themselves.
Rocker mother seems to have no range. She just gets quieter and louder. Singing loud will get you by in some rock songs. But the variety of themes on the show will reveal her lack of range.

Oh yeah, let’s defend our actions based on What Would Simon Do?

The nature of your comments in these threads has pretty much kept me out of them. I enjoy the show immensely and love to read about it and talk about it, but I don’t have much use for the gratuitously nasty and negative. I read through the threads during the early weeks, to catch anything I might have missed about who made it and who got cut. Several posters here are very good at keeping track of names and outcomes. But your posts, Dio, are puerile and nasty to the point that I don’t even want to be in the same thread. I sometimes wonder why you watch the show. Then the answer occurs to me.

Your last sentence is most certainly the truth.

Really? I’m the only one who snarks? It’s me all by myself? And I never say good things?

If you think I’m bad, you should stay away from the TWOP or VFTW forums.
Are you one of those people who thinks that Simon is a big meanie, and you wish he would only say nice things?

I’m really interested in what people think about this.

I’ve already gotten more personal here than is my habit. I’ll end my part in this by saying that I think that Simon is an entertaining judge, but not a person I would want to emulate. For me, dawg, you are not an entertaining judge.

(I felt bad for the bumpkin from Tennesee who was eliminated. At least she got to ride on a aero-plane and see the Big City for a day or so. But yeah, it was probably for the best.)

I think he needed to take advantage of the opportunity he had, regardless of the timing. He appears to be very talented. I don’t think he is going to win, but I’m pretty sure he can get a career going from being on the show. Overall, his family will benefit more by this than by his being there for a birth.

It’s only been the last 30 or so years that fathers in the delivery room has been a staple. When I was born and growing up, it was unheard of. Men sat in the waiting room and smoked, or hung out at a bar waiting for the call.

I am expecting a baby in August. I wouldn’t miss its birth to be on a game show.

I don’t mind snark in AI threads (I believe that they are mostly crappy people, too - nice people don’t tend to be interested in stardom at any cost), but I hate to think you’re not participating in something you’re interested in because of the snark in these threads. Can you just sort of filter out the bad and keep the good?

I used to enjoy the preamble shows because you got to see all the weirdos and freaks, as well as getting your first glimpse of some real talent, but the way they’re doing it now, keeping the real talent under wraps until they’re down to the final 24, is irritating me.

ETA: Forgot to comment on Big Mike missing his daughter’s birth - at his talent level, I think he’s (probably) doing the right thing in the long run. If he was a more borderline talent, the judges would have done him a favour by not giving him a chance in Hollywood and sending him back home to his wife right at the start.

I critricized some guy for skipping his baby’s birth just to go to initial audition one year (the guy with shaved head who was in the Navy…he sang country and made it pretty far…Stacey maybe?). It wasn’t evn Hollywood, just the first audition. Anyway, I got called an asshole for saying his baby was more important than famewhoring, so I’m shutting up about it this time.

I’ve already said a bit about how I feel about parents (well, the post was specifically about mothers but you can substitute ‘parents’).

They think (if they are anything but self-involved, selfish clods) that being in this competition will help their children in the long term. I’m sure Fantasia’s daughter likes the 3 squares she now gets provided to her by a mom who can’t even read.

BUT-- I do not think most of the left behinds get on quite so well.
Which brings me to a tangential question: How many top-- oh, let’s say 5-- contestants were married or engaged at the time of the audition and how many were still married or engaged 2 years after?

For sure I thought Chris Daughtry would dump his wife in a hot second. But he didn’t and earned my respect. Still, read this quote from him to see who things change:

“I used to call [my wife] and just quickly throw in the towel. But I’ve found that the less I say and the more I actually listen to her, and just be there without actually being there, is the best thing I can do. As a man, I always feel like I need to say something. Sometimes I have to stop myself because all I want to do is call and tell her about how much awesome stuff is going on in my life, and, you know, her day is sucking hard. I could write a book on it, I’m serious.”

His life is awesome, while her’s sucks hard. Which says to me they no longer share a life together.

Crotalus isn’t the only one who avoids these threads because of the snark. I haven’t posted in them much for the past couple of years because they have gotten so nasty. And when I do decide to read one, just to see if things have changed (like this week) I quickly discover that no, they haven’t. I remember reading one thread last year and finding comments about Kris Allen looking like a monkey. It really is hard to filter out the bad and keep the good when there’s not much good being said.
The other trend that keeps me out of the AI threads is posting along with the show. I’m not interested in doing that, so it’s annoying the next day to have to wade through two pages of single-sentence posts such as “Wow, that sucked,” or “She really knocked that one out of the park,” or “So and so with that filth on her arms is looking especially monkey-like this week.” Sometimes the posts don’t even include the contestant’s name.

I’d say if he were just borderline talented he’d be a douchebag, but because he might actually go far in this, it kind of makes sense. Me, personally, I would not have missed the birth of my child for American Idol because I know I’d never win.

I know a girl who wanted to go to the auditions this summer in LA but we had a math test, and there was no way she could miss that test.

I think that was more of an I’m on tour and you’re at home with the kids thing.