And now I'm going to put her down....(Update)

Last week, I heard from an old girlfriend . People asked for an update, which I now have. And now, like the monks in Mellivora capensis Zen story, I’m going to put her down.

She didn’t waste any time at all, as a matter of fact. I got here at 6:00 AM, and there was already a green light on my phone.

“Hi, it’s me. I didn’t want to waste any more time, and give you a chance to back out. Call me, and we’ll get together.”

I waited until about 8 AM to call, phone gets answered on the first ring. She’s SO happy I called, she was afraid I wouldn’t. I said, well it’s just coffee, right? Yeah she says, and she can put a pot on whenever I say I’m free.

Um….No. Say, how about Panera? Yes, I’m sure, I think it’d be better if we met somewhere we could just sit and talk. Yes, I trust myself, and yes I trust you, but come on……She laughs and agrees.

She was waiting for me at a table when I walked in, and OMFG, it’s like she walked out of a time machine. By my math, she’s going on 48 this spring, and she looks just incredible. She was always, even when I knew her before, always perfectly put together. A very classy dresser, never left the house without spending a little time making sure everything was just so. She’s got on a suede-ish leather jacket with little fringe things on it, nice sweater, designer jeans and boots that were made for walking…… So, yeah I checked her out, I was entitled to, right?

She stands, greets me with a big long hug, a soft peck on the cheek and a whispered “man it’s good to see you”.

Hey, you too. ::squirm::

Did the howyadoin stuff, filled her in on my life, emphasizing how great my wife is, how perfect the kid is, new house, nice job, blah blah……

She gets this kind of almost sad smile on her face. Can a smile be sad? Anyway, she says that when she heard my voice and we talked last week so many feelings came rushing back and she spent the last several days wondering how she’d find a way to let me down easy, but now hearing how my life is going, she sees she doesn’t have to let me down at all.

Takes me by the hand looks me in the eye and proclaims that she spent a lot of time regretting that we separated, how she would have divorced the doc in a heartbeat and how much she loved me then. How yeah, it was wrong to have an affair, but that she spent the rest of her marriage being the perfect wife, having the things she wanted, accomplishing what she wanted in and out of the home, raising two wonderful kids, so there are no regrets about staying with him, but DAMN, every once in a while something would remind her of Bus Guy, and she’d have one of those “stare out the window and wonder” moments.

She’s just rambling and I’m trying not to think about how good she looks or notice she hasn’t let go of my hand and BTW, what IS that perfume, because damn it smells nice.

She says that when we did what we did, it was stupid and wrong, but we were younger, in love and that she had justified it to herself by saying it couldn’t hurt ME, and that the hurt it would cause would be to her husband and she bore that responsibility, not me. But that if we started something now, well there’s too many people to get trampled on. Even IF she thought she could “lure” me back (her word), there’s no way her sense of right and wrong could survive that. She’s trying to raise two teenagers and she’s smart enough to know you do that by example.

Me? I’m listening, but at the same time wondering if I remember her eyes being THAT blue.

Then she begins the part about how good I look, and I’m so dignified and sexy and I comment on her too. I mean honestly, she has the complexion and skin of someone maybe 15 years younger.

We talk about why she moved with kids in high school – because it’s closer to work for her, great deal on the house and her kids didn’t mind making a change. She’s new to the area, asks for recommendations on a gym, asks if I like the Italian place around the corner from her, just chatty stuff like that. I’m kind of torn, Bus Wife goes to the gym closer to the house (and to her house), while I go up the road 10 minutes to the Healthplex at the hospital. Do I recommend mine, or the one where she could run into the wife? I end up telling her about both, knowing she’ll check out both on her own. I manage to ditch the question about which one she’ll run into me at. My guess, is she’ll end up there anyway, it’s more her style.

After what seems like 10 minutes, she glances at her watch and notices it’s been 45 minutes and decides I should get back to work. I agree but want to get some things that have been unsaid into the “said’ column.

I tell her honestly how great it is to see her. I confess to a couple of those “what if” moments myself over the years, but that I’m very happy where I am. It’s not perfect all the time, but what it really? I’m happy, and it appears she is too – as much as she can be. She assures me she is happy, and I can only believe her.

I said that as nice as it’s been to see her again, that it shouldn’t be a habit. She agrees and floors me by saying that if we did make it a habit that she would do everything in her power to have me, but that she’d never “just fool around” with me again. If she got me again, she’d want it to be for keeps, and that’s just trouble to think about, so let’s both put it out of our minds. I said we’re like crack to each other, which made her laugh.

She won’t call, she won’t write, neither will I but it’s a fairly small town, and if we see each other in the store, we’re not going to bother with trying to steer away from each other. Fair enough, I can do that.

I can, really.

Got back here, shot off a quick e-mail to BW.

“Had coffee. She’s still unbelievably hot, she thinks I’m Mr. Stud but knows she’ll never tear me from you, so she’s not going to try.”
Return e-mail not 2 minutes later:

“Good boy. You know your daughter works late tonight. Clothing will be optional at the Casa”

So I guess that went as well as I could’ve expected.

All’s well that ends well.

Note that if you don’t bang your wife silly for the next week or so, she’s going to have trouble believing you weren’t cheating.

Glad things went well. It may be clothing optional at the bushome tonight but the google ads are suggesting leather. :smiley:

Mr. Bus Guy, as one of the more vocal participants in your last thread, I want to compliment you on the way you handled your meeting.
As I have gotten older, I’ve realized that life is filled with “What if’s…”.
However, I’ve also come to realize that whatever fantasy I may spin out in my head about the road not taken, I have no way of really knowing all the pitfalls that road may have had.
For example, while I may have had a good life with the man I didn’t marry, I could have as easily ended up divorced from him and unhappy now.
As an adult, you pays your money and you takes your chances.
I signed on to this marriage and this man and personal integrity and honor compel me to me it work out and not dwell on what might have been.
Of course, there are those moments when married life seems mundane and routine and flat but you know what, I truly believe that would be the case no matter what.

Or to quote a song I’m fond of:
“Now the things that I remember seem so distant and so small
Though it hasn’t really been that long a time
What I was seeing wasn’t what was happening at all
Although for a while, our path did seem to climb
But when you see through love’s illusions, there lies the danger
And your perfect lover just looks like a perfect fool
So you go running off in search of a perfect stranger
While the loneliness seems to spring from your life
Like a fountain from a pool…”

Mrs. Bus Wife is a woman after my own heart.

What was the original thread?

Linkage

Well, Bus Guy, you’re all right. :cool:

You and your wife are my new heroes.

Let’s not start canonization just yet. I’m the first to admit I sat there this morning thinking that if there were a way to do this harmlessly, that maybe just maybe I’d think about it.

Just 'cause I didn’t and did what I did instead means I can still be tempted like that.

Just make sure you scream out the right name.

I’ll come over and tie it in a knot for you. :smiley:

Tease

You done good, Mr Bus Guy. And your wife is awesome!

That’s cool, Mr Bus Guy.

Your wife is a very lucky woman.

Robin

Also, don’t close your eyes with a goofy grin on your face. Unless, of course, that’s normal for you…

Good going on your part.
In the last thread, I was somewhat of an advocate for this meeting, and I was also somewhat of a defender of this woman.

No more.

I’m sorry, but something about the whole thing just reeks. Why would she bring up stuff like “I have to be a role model for the kids” and “this would hurt more people”?

What THIS? There IS no “this”. “This” is all in her head. She has gone from lonely woman who needs and wants to make friends to Predator for me. I dont’ buy her act one bit–she’s either got an ego the size of Texas or she is after you.

It was supposed to be coffee with an old flame. Fine. IMO, she tried to turn it into the Start of Something–I don’t believe her for a second re “this is small town” etc.

Watch yourself. Especially at that health club. Small town gossip is deadly in more ways than one–and it doesn’t take much to start the rumor mill.

Kudos to Mrs BusGuy.

Well, a giant Homer D’uh.
We can all be tempted-being married doesn’t mean your genitals are now in a deep freeze and can only be defrosted by your spouse.
It means that if you value your partner and relationship, you sigh and take a deep breath and pass on the cookies on the side and go on with your basically happy life.

That’s right. :slight_smile:

You guys are my heroes, because these are stories that happen every day, everywhere. What man wouldn’t think about it or be tempted? Hell, I’m a woman, I have my temptations, too. A lesser man would have done it. A lesser woman would have a leash on her man, with no trust.

You faced temptation, considered it, decided it wasn’t worth the risk, and went on with your life. Sleezeballs are a dime a dozen, Bus Guy, but you and your wife are pretty damn cool. :cool:

Interesting. This isn’t too far from what I was thinking afterwards. Consider:

  • In the first call, I talked her down from drinks, to lunch to coffee. Explaining along the way that I wanted something open and innocent as a way/place to meet. Then this morning, her first suggestion was I go to her house, where she’d be alone with the kids back at school.
  • The Greeting. Big Hug. Major, serious, clingy hug. Soft wet kiss on the cheek and the whisper I had to get real close to hear.
  • My sweater still smells like her. (Note to me: Toss this in the laundry before BW gets home, just because, ya know?) Sitting across from her, it wasn’t apparent, but what she had on must have been all over her to rub off on my clothes. I said she always took care how she presented herself, that was no accident.
  • You’re right, she mentioned “this thing”, and “if we were to…”, meaning to me her mind was open to the possibility at the very least, or at worst, she was willing to try and lead me that way.
  • The first time she grabbed my hand, it was to make a point. Then she took her time letting go. I have a lot of old friends, and even a few old girlfriends I’ve run into before - not as serious as this was, but still I don’t remember being clung to like that.
  • Combine the things she said in the last call, I’m the one that “got away”, and some of the things she talked about today about the sometimes pining for the past and what have you and I think she was just reacting to me when she talked about letting me down. I think she saw there I wasn’t going to let anything happen and decided on the spot - or beforehand she decided how she’d handle it if it came to that - to be the one to back away. I asked if her husband ever knew about us - I’d always wondered. She said he did because they went to a therapist a year or so later, a therapist that did them a lot of good according to her. But she told him everything then, and that every now and then I would get thrown in her face. Stuff like “well then go find your perfect lover, I’m sure he’d make it all better for you…” So even being out of the picture, she wanted to make me think I was always there in a way.

I expect to run into her sometime, I’ll know more then if this is my imagination, or if she really can keep her distance. Really, it’s up to me, not her.

Very nice.

Very mensch.

Kudos all around – even her. Hey, sometimes you have to take a shot.

As in the origingal thread, I still say that no good will come of this. 2-1 odds that in six months or so we’ll be reading a thread titled, “My wife dumped me.”
God, I hope not, but all the elements are still there for a bad ending.

Sounds like Mr Bus Guy was testing the boundaries of both the wife and the old flame. :rolleyes:
From someone whose been there…