It is a reputable source for these shootings. They were way ahead of the pack in the LV shootings. Don’t smear with a broad brush.
Dola, you could actually read Kelleys FB posts and listen to what his friends have said.
How about the BBC or the Baltimore Post-Examiner?
THIS! If they can’t go out in a blaze of “glory”, there’s less incentive to do it.
Patrick Boyce who’d attended New Braunfels High School with Devin Kelly:
‘He had a kid or two, fairly normal, but kinda quiet and lately seemed depressed. He was the first atheist I met. He went Air Force after high school, got discharged but I don’t know why. I was just shocked [to hear the news]. Still haven’t quite processed how he could have done that.’
Nina Rose Nava, who also went to school with Kelley, wrote on Facebook:
‘In in complete shock! I legit just deleted him off my fb cause I couldn’t stand his post. He was always talking about how people who believe in God we’re stupid and trying to preach his atheism.’
Christopher Leo Longoria replied:
‘I removed him off FB for those same reasons! He was being super negative all the time.’
Michael Goff added:
‘He was weird but never that damn weird, always posting his atheist sh** like Nina wrote, but damn he always posted pics of him and his baby – crazy.’
I’m not sure how that is. The Lautenberg amendment applies to the military too.
Now, now, now; the rules are that you’re not supposed to actually do anything unless the shooter yells [DEL]“Simon Says!”[/DEL], er, “Allahu Akbar!”
Can’t find a great cite but there’s lots of mediocre ones out there that indicate summary court martial decisions and non-judicial punishments don’t count as misdemeanor convictions, and therefore don’t trigger Lautenberg.
That cite is from the Mississippi NG JA office, but it’s the most official I could find on page 1 of google.
eta: Seems that the text of the amendment requires a jury conviction, or a defendant who waived the right to a jury. That would be why summary courts martial don’t apply.
What would you like to do?
The maximum sentence for a summary court martial is 30 days confinement. He was sentenced to a year. Most likely he was tried in a Special Court Martial which does count as a misdemeanor conviction.
This comes across like junior modding. Don’t tell another poster what they can use as a cite. Feel free to refute what the cite says.
Yes please tell us exactly what to do.
As per CNN the shooter was able to pass a background check to buy a gun last year. He was later denied a concealed carry permit.
It’s confirmed that his in-laws attend that church but they weren’t present at the time of the shooting.
He was shot by the responding neighbor and fled but later turned the gun on himself.
This is the article with the above information.
:dubious:
I don’t think anyone can ever figure out his true motive, but I don’t think it was a thirst for fame.
I wait in anticipation for extreme vetting of UK residents coming to America; we’re thoroughly atheist over here. Though somehow we usually resist the temptation to murder believers.
But really; if this shooting is classed as ideologically-driven (like the jihadists) and it’'s only white Christian maniacs considered aberrations suffering from mental illness I’ll be appalled, and entirely unsurprised.
Doesn’t work, not even when the penalty for talking about such infamy-seekers is death.
It would also make them much more frightening and hard to deal with if nobody is allowed to talk about them. Just imagine an organized campaign to kill black or Jews where nobody is allowed to talk about who is doing it.
I think it should be ok to talk about the shooter and General details concerning their life up to that point, but they should be identified as “the shooter”, “police interviewed ‘the shooter’s’ spouse”, and so forth. With a fb-like silhouette for a picture if they want graphics.
Because, honestly, these kind of events are scary, and they should be treated as scary. Maybe that will inspire more people to call for action.
That can only be done by identifying the shooter and finding out all details about his life and what motivated him.
I really don’t know what you’re talking about. There are plenty of shootings by white men that are “classed as ideologically-driven”. Just off the top of my head I can think of Dylan Roof, the guy that shot up the abortion clinic, and the Sikh temple shooting in Wisconsin. There’s not some magical white privilege that gets our shootings ‘excused’, or whatever you’re imagining happens.
ETA: Oh, and the guy that shot Steve Scalise