Well, obviously, we should all accept the fact that whenever we leave home there is a chance we will be shot by a white male with “mental issues”. Then we will stop being surprised by these totally expected speakable acts.
Wait, what?
We’ve been criticizing the sources of cites almost as long as this board has been in existence. (I remember pointing out to someone, probably back around 2000-ish, that the World Net Daily really wasn’t a reliable cite.) Has this ever been treated as off limits before, whether as junior modding or some other justification??
Isn’t it then just as obvious that “we” should all accept the fact that whenever we leave home there is a chance we will be shot by a black male with “mental issues”?
Does this look like ATMB to you? But since this should be a quick answer. If it’s not enough take it to ATMB.
“I don’t think that is a credible source.” “Your source is incorrect because of A.” No problems.
“Don’t link to that site it’s not credible.” Pushing it. A poster can’t tell another to not link to anything.
It’s easy enough to get your point across without the appearance of ordering another poster.
Local law enforcement now says that he was having a problem with his mother-in-law, exchanging angry texts with her. She attends that church.
I just heard on NBC News that the DV charge included one for fracturing his baby’s skull. :eek: This child was by his (first?) wife, with whom I heard he had a 7-year-old, so I wonder if this was the same wife and child. I also heard that his criminal record was not flagged when he tried to buy guns, because it was never entered into the database.
:smack: :mad: :eek:
It sounds like a lot of people dropped an awful lot of balls, and dozens of people paid the ultimate price. 
I honestly don’t agree with chastising the poster who said praying doesn’t help. Obviously it doesn’t. Just as it doesn’t help cancer, people getting knocked over etc. These shootings won’t ever stop in America, you have made your bed now. I realise I will get slated for this opinion. However if you have more guns than people in a country, this will happen. It’s a thing that disappoints me about America (Yes, I have spent a lot of time in the states) that some Americans can not see the correlation between amount of guns and shootings. I work in a British bar, not a dive at all. If someone came in with an easily accessible weapon it would be a knife. Yes there would be injuries maybe some deaths. Not the same an automatic rifle…
If the shooter went to the church to pray and engage himself by helping other people I would say praying would have helped greatly.
As none of the victims in this instance were shot by a gun you’re point is a bit muddled.
If some in the UK wanted to kill a lot of people they would use something like a car, bus or airplane. Again, your point is a bit muddled. this was a a deliberate attempt to kill a lot of people with no discernible motive other than bad feelings from some emails. take away the gun and they’re still dead by other means.
WTF are you talking about?
…what?
An AR-15 is…what?
Guns don’t kill people, people kill people… nobody was shot by a gun, they were shot by a person…
Yeah, it’s Magiver here, that’s the level we’re at.
Just as the mass killing a couple of days ago wasn’t committed by a truck. It was committed by a person.
The problem is not the gun or the truck. it’s the person who want’s to kill people. Both killers were stopped by a person using a gun.
If all the guns were magically removed it would not limit a person from committing mass murder.
Yeah but, they’ll have to work a lot harder for a lot less mass. I seriously doubt he coulda gotten as many people in that church with a truck. He’d have to wait until they came out.
This is huge, man. So much bigger than the SDMB. You need to get your ideas out there, this is going to change the world!
Possibly. You’re creating an argument based on a limiting parameter. If you watched news clips of the members of the church you would have seen images of them standing outside after mass.
You’ve heard the old saying “when seconds count, the police are minutes away”. In this case it was an armed neighbor who ultimately stopped him.
Let’s test that out. Let’s remove all guns.
or, and I’m just throwing this out because you seem to have problems containing your emotions, you post an argument to what I said.
So what’s the difference between “hero” & “vigilante”? The outcome? It sure sounds to me like Johnnie Langendorff & Stephen Willeford are the latter.
Listen to Johnnie’s own words in this interview. Some random stranger, who you just witnessed in a gun battle gets in your truck & the two of you proceed to chase the guy at 95 mph, weaving around traffic? Watch, they’ll get a parade instead of what they should get…charges.