sigh Scroll down to the part about 1986.
Note the Focus on the Family quote by her son and the part about him helping her write her books.
Can you point me to this book review, and the author? Nothing I’m finding on Barbara Johnson suggests that she’s come out to say that gays can’t change. shrug Could it be she was talking about not being able to change desires but that they can change behavior?
Abbie Carmichael, enjoy your Valentine’s Day! And I’m being completely 100% sincere when I say that. Use the day to celebrate the love you have and the role it has in your life. Celebrate the struggles you’ve had to go through to make yourself become the person who can take part in and appreciate that love. Celebrate your faith and its role in making you a loving person. Be happy that a void in your life has been filled, that you’re not facing the world alone but are part of something larger. Able to not only enjoy the world but share everything wonderful with someone else.
And remember that joy you feel and look for that in other people. And use that to deliniate between “desire” and “behavior.”
You know, it’s almost as if someone is trying to tell the right-wing anti-gay crowd something. Maybe someone known to work in mysterious ways.
Yeah, that’s the book!!!
Why did I think the cover was red?
Let’s see now…
Candace Gingrich
Mary Cheney
John Schlafly (though he’s a self-loathing collaborator with his dogbitch mother against gays and lesbians)
Maya Keyes
Isn’t Paul Cameron’s son gay as well?
Anyone else well-known that I’m missing?
Socarides’ son. I think you’ve confused him and Cameron.
You’re right. I knew it was one of the big ex-gay-movement “scientists”…
Ya think? 
I’ve been pointing out that irony for some time now.
Abbie: The review that I quoted from is from Evangelicals Concerned, Inc.: http://www.ecinc.org/Reviews/rvwntr_2000.htm
You may be right – and they may actually be using “homosexual lifestyle” with a legitimate meaning in terms of what “lifestyle” means otherwise, rather than synonymous with being homosexual. It’d be interesting to know more about this.
Randall Terry’s adopted son Jamiel.
Well given the current logic against gay couples adopting, I think the real point here is, it’s obviously these sorts of households that promote children turning to a perverted lifestyle. The soomer they can be taken away from this perniscious influenece and adopted by gay couples the sooner that will be able to grow up to be nice normal hetrosexuals. Right?
I’m not feeling joy at the moment. If the father had been able to accept and love his daughter as she is, and through that love had his eyes opened and his prejudice destroyed, that would be joyous.
This makes me very sad. Regardless of whether such a debacle was foreseeable, the idea that a father would abandon his child ought to be enough to engender your sympathy.
quote=Martin Hyde]Personally if I was gay and I had a father like that I’d not come out until after he’d funded my education, then I would come out on graduation day and throw it in his face.
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But what if she wanted to go to graduate school?
Yes, but Terry insists Jamiel was damaged before the adoption.
So let me make sure I understand the morality correctly here, seeing as how I’ve been corrupted by the leftist homo-friendly agenda and all.
Selfish, hedonistic, and amoral:
[ul]
[li]A young woman wanting to be with the person she loves, get an education, and help other people.[/li][li]Couples who want to make a pledge of lifelong devotion and commitment and get married.[/li][li]Couples who want to provide a loving and supportive home to a child.[/li][li]People who advocate the freedom for others to find mutual happiness in their personal and spiritual lives in whatever way they see fit.[/li][/ul]
Unselfish, righteous, and moral:
[ul]
[li]A father who withholds a home and an education for his child.[/li][li]A man who persecutes a segment of the population for his own political gain.[/li][li]A woman who not only equates her son’s sexual orientation with the death of her other son and a horrible accident causing the brain damage and blindness of her husband, but talks about how these experiences affected her and the crisis it put her through.[/li][li]A woman who drives her son away for over a decade until he denounces himself and tries to fit with her worldview and helps her write her books and make her money, instead of trying to help him fill the emptiness in his own life.[/li][/ul]
Does that sound about right to y’all?
Has it EVER been a good political move to disown your own child?
Didn’t this guy basically just commit polical suicide?
“Suicide” implies that you had some life to begin with. The only reason anyone has given a damn for several years is that Illinois needed a placeholder for Barack Obama to destroy.
He was a joke to begin with. He appeals to a very narrow demographic, and that demographic certainly isn’t going to be turned off by something like this. They are capable of mental gymnastics that allow them to believe his are the actions of a loving father.
Meanwhile, you have to be dishonest to yourself and your parents for four years. Dancing around the truth is not easy.
Perhaps she expected what any child would of their parent, some compassion?
I certainly pity the girl, despite whatever present irony. Keyes may not be a hypocrite, but that’s not the worst thing you can be.
Sigh I just don’t understand people like this.
Precisely. And the annoying thing is that they will attempt to justify this doublethink to you by selective Bible or FF quotations.
My suspicion - She didn’t just now come out. Alan knew for a while & issued a veiled message to her back during the campaign. After the election, she then came out as a liberal, attending an anti-war, anti-Bush rally, giving him a reason to dismiss her from his staff. And now she’s come out again- leading to his cutting her off financially.
If she were a minor thrown out of her house, I’d verbally kick his ass; now I just feel sorry for him & her. He has every right to believe what he does about homosexuality, and he has some right not to subsidize her adult life if she pursues a path he opposes. But whew- is he’s totally cast her out of his life, that’s too damn harsh for me.
Btw, I was looking all through GD & the Pit for this. Amazed that I found it in MPS
FF?
Founding Fathers?