You’ve put it together wrong. You’re going to put someone’s eye out with that thing! You should have bought the ACME one, but do you listen?
OK, you may have a few points there. I really wanted the House of Healing in there (even the EE doesn’t do it right), and what is the stupidity of having Eowyn sleep in the main hall in Edoras? Bah. I also don’t find cleaned up Kingly Elessar hot at all… I like Aragorn nice and sweaty/dirty…
First, I am wearing a protective face mask and body armor. I have told you guys several times that, when I am assembling one of my evil devices, everyone is to put on appropriate safety gear, lest we have a repeat of the mass nostril piercing of November 2005. Now for Eru’s sake put on yours. Geez.
Second, ACME is not to be trusted. None of Wile E’s traps ever worked as advertised, and when he complained all he ever got was store credit.
Third–what we were talking about?
Oh, yeah. Movie Aragorn. How I loathe him. He led Eowyn on and broke her heart! That loathsome, vile, tofu-eating bastard.
I never got those safety devices. All I got was this here paper plate to hold up!
NO he did not,either! You take that back you** scalder of milk** or I’ll pummel you to Kingdom Come. Twas but a dream that she loved–she found True Love with Faramir–and he was much better for it and so was she. Poor Aragorn got stuck with the Elf twit. Poor Aragorn… I’d help him with his loneliness and her lack of understanding real, human emotions and problems. I bet she can’t even cook! He does not eat tofu–which is more amenable to being bathtub grout, anyways. He eats steak like a Man. (and cookies–he likes cookies after nookie).
Stupid monkeys sent you the wrong package. The paper plates are for the celebratory cookout after I unleash my legions of flying robot pirahnas with particle-beam-blasters built into their anuses to conquer the Earth.
:: checks schedule ::
You, um, may not want to go outside Monday, eleanorigby. Unless you already have a suit of unobtainium body army at your disposal.
In fact, screw that. Just go to Tenerife. Unless you’re already in Tenerife, in which case Bob’s your uncle.
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NO he did not,either! You take that back you** scalder of milk** or I’ll pummel you to Kingdom Come. Twas but a dream that she loved–she found True Love with Faramir–and he was much better for it and so was she. Poor Aragorn got stuck with the Elf twit. Poor Aragorn… I’d help him with his loneliness and her lack of understanding real, human emotions and problems. I bet she can’t even cook! He does not eat tofu–which is more amenable to being bathtub grout, anyways. He eats steak like a Man. (and cookies–he likes cookies after nookie).[/QUOTE
Um…okay. Let’s just agree that Arwen was a twit. Everybody knows that.
Just to clarify, we are talking about Arwen in the movie as portrayed Liv Tyler who should be in serious competition for Worst Actress Ever!
Of course she was a twit, she had spoke and had to emote. These skills are beyond her and the lifeless character [del]actor[/del]hack that played her Dad and ruined Elrond for me.
Um, excuse me? My coding errors were caused by my being distracted by having to program the pirahnas not to eat, incinerate, or otherwise molest you (since you obstinately refuse to go to Tenerife), so I think you meant to say, “Many thanks, O Dark One.”
Yeah. that’s it–I like how you got them “fixed”, too. I don’t gots to go to Tenerife, seeing as how I got me a Reverse Shield that works on your ray gun thingummy.
Paper or celluloid Arwen-- it matters not. And I’m none too fond of Elrond, either.
So, to get back to the thread, boys (y’all are mighty distractible)–I vote for Aragorn as MVP.
No, no, no. In my mind Frodo is always MVP. (Book Frodo, not movie Frodo, obviously) with Gollum & Sam & Gandalf in 2nd places, and Aragorn, Treebeard, et al, following behind.
(Someday we geeks - if I may include myself - should speculate on the Further Adventures of the Sons of Elrond, before & including the War of the Ring, including the brother-no-one-talked-about, who got jealous of Aragorn and joined the dark side…)
I basically agree with Skald’s rankings in post 18, for the reasons stated. If you held a reforged rune-engraved longsword to my throat and limited me to ten and only ten candidates, I’d say:
Gandalf
Frodo
Gollum
Aragorn
Samwise
Treebeard
Theoden
Eowyn
Elrond (for convening the Council, even if he just sat on his ass most of the rest of the War)
Merry
I’d omit Bilbo entirely. If he never met Gollum, the wretched Stoor would probably have died deep in the mountain eventually, and the One Ring might never have been found.
I basically agree with the current list. I suppose one could make some stretched-out reasons to put some others there, but they’d all be in the teens and twenties on the list.
Boromir, for saving Merry and Pippin so they could do great deeds later on.
Cirdan, for being wise enough to give Narya to Gandalf and not Saruman.
Manwë, for sending the Wizards in the first place.
Celebrimbor, for protecting the Elvish rings from Sauron’s influence.
The race of dragons, for taking the Dwarvish rings out of the picture.
Bill the pony, for obvious reasons.
Sauron himself, for being so evil-overlord predictable when it really mattered.
And on the subject of Liv Tyler as Arwen, I always give her credit for speaking Elvish so beautifully. Her few Elvish lines were the best examples of non-English in the movies.
I am going to arbitrarily define the Ringwar as beginning when the Nazgul crossed the Anduin in 3018, and say that only actions taken by the Free Peoples of Middle-Earth count. Otherwise the answer has to be “Eru Iluvatur, by a light-year.”
Also, while Boromir died a hero and redeemed, he didn’t matter much to the larger conflict (except that he inspired Frodo to get off his ass and go it alone, or nearly so.)
Bilbo deserves a little more credit. Giving up the ring so easily after posessing it for many years was a most remarkable and unique feat. And if intentions have a role, then Gollum shouldn’t rank so highly. Otherise Sauron should rank #1 for
the fortunate act of putting most of his power into a destructable trinket
I tend to agree. He especially pales next to the younger Baggins, who took on his mission expecting nothing but death and suffering out of it. (I’m referring specifcially to his volunteering to take the ring to Mount Doom at the Council of Elrond.
By the way, I’m wondering if we’ve given Elrond too high a ranking. Now that I think about it, he DIDN’T call the council to session; he just hosted it. Twas fight or providence or Eru that brought everyone together at the same time.
(I’m referring to the book, of course. The film’s silliness of Elrond summoning Boromir, all the way in Minas Tirtith, is so obvious as not to be worth stating.)