[QUOTE=Little Nemo]
Let me guess. Would this be related to the fact that the mainstream media is secretly controlled by members of a certain religious group? Do I win a prize if I guess which one?
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Ooh! Let me try!
Uh, the Zoroastrians?
No? Damn! :smack:
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
I know that not all blacks wish to harm whites, but a good number of them do!
What shocks me is that so many people on this board seem utterly terrified to acknowledge this fact.
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Y’know what? My guess would be that nearly every poster on this board knows that some percentage of blacks hate whites. Some posters would consider that more foolish racism. Some folks would consider that the natural result of over 300 years of oppression–oppression that only stopped being legal in the lifetime of many of us and that continues (fortunately much reduced) today. A few posters will even decide that blacks are just evil (although they will probably not voice their opinions very loudly).
However, the one thing that you will find repeated, over and over, is that when someone wishes to portray blacks as evil or as “getting away” with so much more racism than whites, a great many of us will recognize that such a broad generalization is simply not true. When such assertions are put forth supported by American Renaissance or VDARE or other blatantly racist web sites, it is liable to make many posters suspicious of the intent behind such claims.
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
How exactly do you come to the conclusion that I am “proud of being a racist”?
I entered Tennessee State University a proud liberal on race matters, thinking that whites and blacks had basically put most ill-feelings behind them, and found out differently.
I got told, “You do not belong here!” several times. I heard black students talking about beating up whites on numerous occasions. I conversed with quite a number of people who felt it was not really possible for a black to steal anything from a white – it is all just “payback”.
I got shoved down by this racist black behemoth. None of the people around (all black) did a thing to help.
If I tried to disagree with any of the black students about anything, I was shouted down as a racist.
I could go on and on, but I will stop for now.
Basically, I encountered a level of racial hostility that shattered a lot of illusions. I guess you could say that the experience rattled me to the core of my being and made me re-evaluate a lot of things about race. Now, I know that there are a lot of blacks who really hate white people. I know that not all blacks wish to harm whites, but a good number of them do!
What shocks me is that so many people on this board seem utterly terrified to acknowledge this fact. If a white gets attacked, he somehow deserves it, probably used racially abusive language, etc.
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Honestly, all I can say is that I don’t believe you. I think a lot of people interpret situations depending on preconceived views. I just have heard way too many times people who are either openly white supremacists or who post links to white supremacist web cites claiming that they once were liberal on racial matters, but suddenly something horrific happened to them to open their eyes.
It doesn’t pass the smell test to me, and if you went into a black majority environment looking for evidence that everyone hated you, I’m not surprised you think you found it.
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
How exactly do you come to the conclusion that I am “proud of being a racist”?
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I think it was the “fool” thing. Very arrogant-sounding. Look, I’m sorry about your bad experiences. The fact remains that you’ve turned some individual instances into a generalization about all black people, and that’s pretty much the definition of racism. People who haven’t had those experiences and don’t think all black people think alike can see an isolated fight for what it is and don’t see a media coverup.
[QUOTE=Giraffe]
Why would you think I was joking? It’s perfectly reasonable to abhor racism and violence directed at blacks while at the same time supporting racism and violence by blacks. That’s why I, like most white people, am strongly in favor of federal assistance to fund outreach programs to educate and inform black youths on the benefits to their self-image and position in society of kicking a white guy hard in the nuts. It just seems like the right thing to do.
Are you telling me you wouldn’t support such a program? If so, what’s wrong with you?
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That is just incredibly stupid.
Error. Error. Subject sense of humor: broken. Prepare for self-destruct.
(if only)
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
Basically, I encountered a level of racial hostility that shattered a lot of illusions. I guess you could say that the experience rattled me to the core of my being and made me re-evaluate a lot of things about race. Now, I know that there are a lot of blacks who really hate white people. I know that not all blacks wish to harm whites, but a good number of them do!
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While your situation sounds horrible, did it not once foster any empathy in you for the number of black or hispanic students in predominantly white schools, predominantly white workplaces, predominantly white governments or predominantly white countries?
But FWIW, I agree that the observations that gytalf2000 made in post 39 are pretty much spot on. However, in my experience these are usually aimed at outisders- I would think that those at all black school would have an affinity for a white who went to their school, but maybe I’m wrong.
[QUOTE=villa]
It doesn’t pass the smell test to me, and if you went into a black majority environment looking for evidence that everyone hated you, I’m not surprised you think you found it.
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Did you even bother reading my post? My exeriences with black people up to graduate school were positve. That is why I enrolled there, and was basically a liberal about race at that point. I found out at TSU that a lot of blacks did not like whites at all. I never said that ALL blacks are sitting around scheming to kill all whites – just that there are blacks that do hate whites.
You know, it would have been different if, when someone was harrassing me for being white, another person had said, “Stop that! Don’t treat him like that!” That would have made a big difference.
One time, one of my fellow grad students called me up after class to apologize for some of the remarks made by the others. It just stuck in my craw that he didn’t have the guts to say anything while I was being verbally attacked.
The time I got shoved down to the floor by the “sasquatch”-sized guy (he shot me a look of pure hatred), NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON said anything, helped me get to my feet, etc. If someone had done so, I would be more likely to pass the incident off as an isolated bullying incident.
It would have made a difference if some of the people I talked with were not so eager to dismiss any and all black-on-white crime as “just desserts”. Some of the students bragged about beating up whites!
Oh well, that is all for now. Perhaps I will write more later…
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
That is just incredibly stupid.
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Not nearly as stupid as this response.
Man, maybe we should send some big, scary blacks over to adjust your sarcasm meter. Luckily, I’ve got 1-800-GANGSTA on speed-dial.
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
Did you even bother reading my post? My exeriences with black people up to graduate school were positve. That is why I enrolled there, and was basically a liberal about race at that point.
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That’s what I said I don’t believe. I have seen it way too often, when people claim these kind of conversions. Sorry, but that’s my experience, which you are, of course, free to believe or not.
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
Oh well, that is all for now. Perhaps I will write more later…
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Do you intend to show sympathy for the poor kid at this theoretical future point?
I mean, out of all the people here, you’ve had the most opportunities to say at least something. I’m beginning to suspect you just don’t care about white people.
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]
Do you intend to show sympathy for the poor kid at this theoretical future point?
I mean, out of all the people here, you’ve had the most opportunities to say at least something. I’m beginning to suspect you just don’t care about white people.
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Here, I’ll do it for you. Poor kid, he got pounded relentlesly. He seemed no worse for wear though. Hope he’s ok.
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
That is why I enrolled there, and was basically a liberal about race at that point.
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What does it mean to be a liberal about race? Does it mean you used think it was okay for black and white people to share drinking fountains and lunch counters?
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
You know, it would have been different if, when someone was harrassing me for being white, another person had said, “Stop that! Don’t treat him like that!” That would have made a big difference.
One time, one of my fellow grad students called me up after class to apologize for some of the remarks made by the others. It just stuck in my craw that he didn’t have the guts to say anything while I was being verbally attacked.
The time I got shoved down to the floor by the “sasquatch”-sized guy (he shot me a look of pure hatred), NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON said anything, helped me get to my feet, etc. If someone had done so, I would be more likely to pass the incident off as an isolated bullying incident.
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I’m sorry you went through that. The same sort of thing happened to me in elementary school, except they all hated me for no apparent reason.
Keep in mind that not everyone has the guts to stand up to a bully, especially when they’re not the target. It’s a lot easier to stand by and do nothing than it is to interfere and potentially get hurt yourself.
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
Perhaps I will write more later…
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Please don’t–we’re all good here for now. Really. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Omegaman]
Here, I’ll do it for you. Poor kid, he got pounded relentlesly. He seemed no worse for wear though. Hope he’s ok.
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Same here.
gytalf2000: This is the most humorous thread I have seen in a long time. This is a stunt thread right? No one could be dumb enough not to realize the **Giraffe ** is openly and completely mocking you?
Seriously, what’s next linking to a Fred Phelps thread to make your point or Scientology?
Please tell me this entire thread was an elaborate Andy Kaufman style hoax?
Jim
[QUOTE=Giraffe]
I’d like to see more white kids beaten up by black kids. It makes me happy.
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I agree completely with this. In fact, I would go farther. I’m quite sad that in most incidents where black people physically attack white people, the black people usually are not armed, which limits the damage they do in their attack. Sometimes, the black people attack with the benefit of baseball bats or knives or tire irons, and sometimes even firearms, which means their attack on the white people is much more effective. This fills my heart with joy, but given how many more incidents there are where the black people are attacking barehanded, my happiness is fleeting. Really, this would be a perfect world if the black people always enjoyed the advantage of weaponry. Sometimes, I fantasize about setting up a portable sales booth at the edge of black-dominated schoolyards, playgrounds, and neighborhoods, so I can offer brass knuckles, shivs, and zip guns for sale. I would make some money, and black people could attack the shit out of white people. Win win. Of course, I have never actually followed up on this entrepreneurial scheme, because I am neither Chinese nor Jewish. Still, a man can dream.
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
Sometimes, I fantasize about setting up a portable sales booth at the edge of black-dominated schoolyards, playgrounds, and neighborhoods, so I can offer brass knuckles, shivs, and zip guns for sale. I would make some money, and black people could attack the shit out of white people. Win win. Of course, I have never actually followed up on this entrepreneurial scheme, because I am neither Chinese nor Jewish. Still, a man can dream.
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Being half Asian and half white, I actually sold a black guy a baseball bat the other day just so that he could hit me with it. First I yelled, “Hurry up and buy!” Then I yelled, “Hurry up and swing!”