Anybody watching PRoject Greenlight?

It is now on Bravo instead of HBO. And instead of Miramax backing it, they have Dimension Films, with the hopes of making a more commercial film, instead of the smaller indie, mediocre (at best) films made previously. Also this time they have Wes Craven on board as a Producer, since they are trying to make ahooror flick.

Despite strong objections from Matt Damon and Wes Craven, the Dimension Films folks basically forced the choice of what seems to be a somewhat conventional monster/horror flick called Feast. The other two Wildcards - a more sdult suspense script - and Does Anybody Here Remember When Hanz Gubenstein Invented Time Travel?, - more of a comedy that Ben Affleck loved - were rejected by Dimension as not being commercial enough and too hard to market (“What’s the poster?”) I have not been able to find the scripts online although I think they should be out there.

The big thing was the the Directors, who qualified by directing their own seven minute short based on a bare bones script. The interesting thing was the best director was also the worst in-person personality, unassertive, unsure, goofy, named John Gulager, a 45-year old, Hollywood guy. Although, the other two were more polished, they decided to take a real chance witht his guy because they just thought he was the most talented of the three. The producers were not really on board, becuase they are the ones that are probably going to have the most headaches with this guy.

Looks like it could be an interesting season, with the usual time and money and reality checks that goes on, plus some interesting characters and a very marketability geared studio. I think it is usually on Tuesday night.

I caught some of this Sunday morning, but I abandoned it when they chose the Feast script. The Hanz Gubenstein script sounded really funny, and Wildcard sounded decent, but difficult to pull off well. Feast just sounded stupid, and Wes Craven agreed with me.

I finally got around to watching the first half after having seen the second half a couple of times.
Affleck & Damon really hated the choice of script. Craven didn’t like it, and kept saying so, although he was the first of the dissenters to finally come out and acknowledge that the studio had already decided so there was no more point in arguing. He thought it would take at least 6 times the budget they have just to make it decent, and he wasn’t really excited about it then.
I liked how in the director interviews he was asking about what they thought the monsters would look like. That was one of the first things I thought when I read that script; how would they make the monsters passable with that relatively small a budget.

And Gulager wasn’t just bad in his interview, he was train-wreck bad. I loved the reaction shots, particularly Chris Moore’s. His submission was nice though. Plus I guess he brings his dad with him for the cast, perhaps for cheap.

Heard a rumor that Craven went ahead and optioned Wildcards. Probably not for Dimension, though.

Yes, I also heard that Craven picked up Wildcard. (Don’t remember it being plural.)

I said this on another message board: I wonder if the choice of Gulager was informed as much by the desire to have an interesting television show (the real point of the project, in my view) as it is to have a good movie at the end of it. Sort of like, “There’s no way we can have a non-crappy movie based on this crappy script, so let’s at least get a director who will make the process of making it interesting.”

If nothing else, this is going to be the most realistic of the Greenlights from an industry perspective. On the first two, they were pretty much left alone by the studio; instead of thinking ahead to the marketing and making a movie that’s sellable first and good second, which is how the business normally works, they focused on getting the movies made, and then they worried about how to sell them later. That’s not how the industry operates, and it’ll be extremely interesting to see whether this more practical point of view is reflected in this latest incarnation of the Greenlight series.

It may be a cringeworthy train wreck, but it’ll be a lot more educational than the first two were, I suspect.

Interesting that from the previews one of the first things they do tomorrow night is a substaintial re-write. Sounds like the studio bought the concept more than the script.

And I can see those two producer guys being on Gulager like stink on poo through the whole thing. At the announcement; “Probably the last picture where we’re all smiling”. Nice.

Wow, Gulager looks like a card-carrying member of Batshit Crazies Intl. Not in an obvious way, but in a more paranoid schizophrenia kind of way. He is totally oblivious of the filmmaking world around him. His sentiment is basically give me the money and let me make the movie I want to make. Does he last the season?

Gangster Octopus: As far as the IMDB is concerned, Gulager is listed as the director of “Feast.” I don’t know if that’s accurate.

I’m astonished at the poorness of Gulager’s communication skills. I don’t know if it’s arrogance or naivete that leads him to think he can strongarm Dimension into letting him cast his friends and family in the movie (especially his goddaughter, who was really terrible in the audition); as has been plainly shown, the studio’s into profit first, and Gulager’s personal preferences are going to be really low on the totem pole. And then he whines about how he doesn’t feel like it’s his movie. I did like his idea of going to see Bob Weinstein in person; I would love to see that encounter.

His Dad at least has some face recognition, so he could probably get him. The rest? Not so much. And yeah, the god-daughter was weak. If this thing had a larger cast, he could maybe get her in a smaller role.

They do cast his girlfriend, just not in that major role. And his dad did get the role John wanted, I think.

If I was producing I’d let him at least have his family around, if not in the cast, just to calm him down. One of the things the god-daughter showed was that since she was coached like the casting director said, he’s obviously capable of directing actors. He just has to want to.
Kinda liked the nepotism discussion the producers where having with him. When they asked what he thought of it, not sure they expected ‘It’s great, I love it.’

I was disappointed in the choice of “Feast”. I mean, I’ve seen “From Dusk Til Dawn” and it was fine and the plot synopsis is pretty much the same. A bar, vampires, and I’m sure “mayhem” and “witty dialogue”. One of the writers is just a bit too faux wacky for me and I’ve got a feeling the script is going to have that if it’s not written out now.

Another thing, is Craven come off a bit ass? I can’t remember what exactly he said, but he just seems a bit too full of himself considering his last movie was “Cursed”.

As for the spoilers, I ran into them when I watched the first episode from DVR. The title of the show was called “Feast”. That kind of sucked out any suspense for script choice. I was surprised when I saw on IMDB that

Henry Rollins was going to be in the movie.

Yeah, he’s kind of a wack job, but I can also see things from his perspective. He’s got people telling him to step up and be a director, but that is, in fact, what he thinks he’s doing: He’s trying to make a directorial decision about the cast. It’s a pretty nutty decision, but it’s a decision nevertheless, and the studio isn’t letting him do it.

What he clearly fails to understand is that in the studio system, the director has a fairly narrow path, a fairly limited set of decisions he or she is permitted to make, and the challenge is to navigate this highly restricted channel and still come out with a watchable movie on the other end. That is not the only way to make a movie, obviously; if you give a thousand directors a million dollars each and tell them to film Script X, you’ll get a thousand different versions of it.

They hired Gulager to bring something different to the table, and when he does, they’re telling him they don’t want it. He’s treating his collaborators as enemies because, from his perspective, they are his enemies: They’re siding with the studio on casting and everything else. If his communication skills didn’t suck so hard, he might be able to articulate this, to explain where he’s coming from: “You wanted me to direct. Let me direct. If you fight me every step of the way, neither of us is going to wind up happy.” He just can’t make clear where he’s coming from, and everybody is going batshit crazy around him.

Personally, as insane as his approach has been up to this point, I suspect the studio would wind up with a happier crew and a better film if they just let Gulager do what he wants. It wouldn’t be a twenty-million-dollar-grossing horror throwaway like they’re looking for, but it would sure be better than the castrated thing they’re trying to force him to create.

Now, don’t get me wrong. Given what they’re trying to do, I think it was a colossal mistake to hire Gulager in the first place. It was evident from his submitted shorts that he can’t work with a crew; he was lighting and shooting and editing everything totally by himself. Yes, the actual films were more interesting than the others, but it’s screamingly obvious just to look at them that they weren’t made with a conventional director-crew arrangement. That in and of itself should have been a huge bright warning flare, over and above the man’s inability to communicate in the pitch session.

But they looked at the material, they looked at the man, and they brought him on board; and now they’re rejecting the very qualities that interested them, and trying to turn Gulager into something he isn’t.

No wonder Hollywood has a reputation as a soul-sucking, anti-artistic machine. They deliberately grind out every last corpuscle of individuality and rebellion in order to force people to conform to their managerial method. Just because that’s a gigantic cliche doesn’t mean it’s any less painful to see it being exemplified by the current production.

Part of me really wants to see the Damfleck step up in a production meeting: “Why are we fighting this guy? We hired him because he made the most interesting films, and now we’re standing in his way at every step. Dimension is obligated to spend a million bucks. Let’s just give Gulager the million and let him make the movie he wants to make. Sure, it’ll probably be a disaster. But it’ll be his disaster.”

Of course, that’s the way the last two Greenlights went, and those didn’t turn out so hot, so… never mind.

I’m just saying, it seems like nothing more than a big stupid tragedy of their own deliberate making. I’m starting to dread tuning in every week, and that’s not fun at all.

Well the real idiocy was picking “Feast” and throwing a budget of peanuts at it.

Oh, there’s plenty of idiocy to go around. But yes, Dimension sucks. A friend of mine insists they are the single worst thing to ever happen to films.

I’d certainly agree up to a point, but that one girl really wasn’t that good. It just seemed like a comfort thing for him. He ran out of family members with about 5 major parts to go, so he was going to have to work with other people anyway. They’ll give him enough on that to make him happy.
I can still watch the train wreck part of it. I sit in a cloth-covered box all day while they’re running around making a movie; I can’t feel too bad for him.

He wasn’t entirely to blame for Cursed. They made him do a bunch of re-shoots, which is why I predict we won’t see much of Wes later on in the series. I thought he severed most of his ties to Dimension around this point.

I wonder if Craven’s appearance and status as executive producer of Feast was something negotiated before Cursed. According to an interview in Fangoria, Craven had an awful time dealing with Dimension over the course of filming Cursed, saying:

Dimension/Weinstein apparently demanded numerous rewrites and reshoots, and there was even a lot of recasting (which messed with continuity and brought on the reshoots) on the film; interestingly, perhaps, for Project Greenlight, Craven says

Craven goes on to say that he doesn’t wish Dimension ill, and doesn’t want to totally burn his bridges with the studio (hence, maybe, his involvement in Project Greenlight):

I’m not sure what the latter part of that quote might mean for Gulager and the rest of the Feast people (and I’ve certainly blathered on long enough), some of that sounds a lot like Gulager, and he’s nowhere near the established and experienced director Craven is.

I love this show. I’ve watched each of this seasons episodes three or four times. I suspect I’d love this industry. I didn’t see the first two seasons; I wish they would re-show them.

None of the faces (Damon, Affleck, Moore, Craven) participated in the last episode where they actually get down to business. I’m wondering if their job is done, and maybe they’ll throw in an opinion now and then or if they’ll be involved in some sort of advisory capacity.

Gulager has already fouled things up in a way that noones discussed yet: Obviously, Feast as it was written can’t be shot for some huge number, like $15m. So, tactic one is obvious, re-write like crazy to get the cost down. But tactic two is equally important, and that is to put together a proposal for Dimension that’s so appealing that they move up from $1m, perhaps to even $5m or more. And having a mute Director at the helm does not inspire confidence. When they went back to the studio for more money, it was a critical time for everybody to be firing on all cylinders. And the key guy was clearly not.

I like those writers. I don’t know how well their writing actually is (I’ve forced myself not to read the script, though I’m not sure why), but they sure come across as creative, hard working and funny.

That casting lady was not my type. You can’t blame her for piping up with her own opinions on everything since Gulager was saying zilch, but it just got annoying after a while.

Even though he comes across as a jerk, the head studio guy (the guy in New York; can’t recall his name) looks like the kind of guy who’s going to make something happen, and I like that.

Andrew Rona I think is his name. And given Dimension’s track record listed above here, he more than likely is a jerk.

I’m not crazy about the casting lady either. I really miss Miramax’s guy from the first two seasons. Joseph Middleton? Very animated.

They showed the entire first season marathon the weekend before this season premired, so Bravo apperantly has the rights to it. And I believe both first two seasons are on DVD, so someplace might rent them.

If those two seasons are any indication, I’d expect to see a lot more of Chris Moore than of the other 3 guys.

Anyone watch this week? For a few minutes there, it looked like Gulager was starting to get a grip on reality. Then he slipped again. He is completely obsessed with getting his family into this movie. They seem talented enough (except for the goddaughter), but he isn’t even considering anyone else.

How many wannabe directors out there dream of getting a chance like this? And he’s going to seriously f**k it up if he continues in this vein. He whines when he doesn’t get his way and he acts like everyone’s out to get him. And at this point, they may be. Everyone else appears to be trying to get things done–seeking more budget money, rewriting the script, designing the creatures. Gulager doesn’t seem to be contributing much except to try and strong-arm the casting of his family. He seems very immature and insecure. It’s starting to look like Damon, Affleck, and company made a big mistake in picking this guy.

It makes for some interesting television, though. I’m hoping for a total meltdown next week.

He did step up in that one meeting and start to share his vision. The guy has talent, he just needs to learn to operate outside his extremely narrow comfort zone. I thought the one producer had it right when he called Gulager on it. He spent who knows how long coaching his people, becasue he feels comfortable with them. Now he just has to learn to do that with other actors.
They’ll eventually get to some type of compromise. I think they haven’t showed his dad yet because that’s the one he’s most likely to get. Less drama in that choice.

And if the Maloofs like his reels and do kick in some more money because of it, he’ll have helped out quite a bit.

And Krista Allen? Oh yeah. I liked the hair thing she did.

Watching this week right now.

I KNEW THAT CASTING GIRL SUCKED! I KNEW IT I KNEW IT

I’d be livid if I were the director or producer.

All concerned were far too nice to her. She’s a feral beast who takes advantage of weakness and opportunity. Gulager’s reluctance to confront her, and instead stew and pout all day, merely emboldened her and gave her yet another target to attack. I think her Hillarian “I know what’s best for you” arrogance combined with her passive-aggressive sociopathy makes her the most treacherous sort of weasel.

Yep, she sucked ass all right. She whined about Gulager wanting his friends, then went behind everyone’s backs to do the same thing with her friend.
“It’s my reputation on the line”; right, if the movie’s bad YOU’RE the one that’ll get the blame. Not the producers & director you stuck with that stiff. Sure.
“Well, a good director can get the performance out of her”; Christ, have you met the guy? He may or may not be good, but how insane is it to put more obstacles in his way? You think he needs even more pressure?
And Navi. I don’t watch The OC, is she really famous enough from that to sell tickets? Seems like she has a relatively minor part on the show, from the listings. I never heard of her before this.
Honestly, if I was one of them I couldn’t stand to be in the same room with her, partially for her own safety. And I’m completely sure she’s delusional enough to think she was totally in the right.

On another note, I can’t say I’d be opposed to seeing Jenny Wade in her underwear for a substantial part of the movie. Wouldn’t hate it.

And considering how almost the first thing out of everyone’s mouth was how the script needed a lot of work, are the writers really in a position to be that critical of the changes? I don’t know.

Finally, unveiling the Monster Unit; that was pretty funny. Every one just staring at it.