It’s funny, people are citing Skewbald’s writing being “too good” as evidence that his story is fake, while simultaneously saying it’s “too much like a Penthouse letter” to be true. I don’t remember Penthouse having good writing.
Perhaps I flatter myself, but I could write as well as Skewbald when I was a teenager, so at least for me that’s not evidence of fakery. The later posts do start sounding like Penthouse letters, but my first attempts at describing sexual situations did as well. This is because, despite having read plenty of non-sexual fiction, my only reference for erotica was the lame letters in porn mags. Also, folks in the thread are praising his powers of description so much that he may be going into a bit more detail than he ought, leading to the penthouse-letter syndrome. At least he’s not saying “Her firm scoops of flesh” or anything.
As far as wearing PJs to school, I knew a girl in high school who wore her boyfriend’s silk PJ pants to school occasionally. She had to safety-pin the fly closed to avoid flashing everyone. Memories of her are what hooked me on Skewbald’s thread.
I think the point is, I don’t give a crap if it’s fiction or truth, but I’d like to know because Skewbald’s Ultra Sap Coyman act at the beginning had me wretching from here to Oak Street Beach.
The chick is flashing her twat at him from day one, telling him how much she likes his cock and he says “gosh, do you think she may like me?”
I honestly believe that this board has so many people interested in reading and writing that if he just said “ok, here’s my fantasy about the pj girl” we all would have read it just as eagerly. I have people asking me for my writing all the time
But if he feels that he’s putting one over on us, being all cutesy and living out the ultimate romance…I’d like him to know…he’s not.
Well, I’m just a lurker here usually, but I wanted to give my 2 measly cents on the topic.
I live by the rule that anything you see on the internet you should assume is false unless there’s a good reason to believe it’s true. I’m not seeing a lot of reasons to assume it’s true. Nothing personal against Skewbald, I just don’t see many reasons to be convinced. It sounds like more of a fantasy situation than reality.
Actually, I kinda hope the story’s not true. If I was “pajama girl” and I found out all the details of my romance had been typed up in glorious detail to thousands of people to peruse on the internet, I’d be pretty damn upset. But, maybe I value my privacy more, I don’t know.
I hadn’t read that thread until I followed the link posted here. It’s not really to my taste but it is a cute story, I don’t see the fuss.
Whether it’s true or not a lot of people are enjoying it, it’s making a lot of people feel good (you know, like those feel good movies).
I don’t mind the story has brightened my otherwise nondescript day, I really don’t care if it’s true, false, or a clever way of pitching a new movie. ( All these people liked it, it’ll make millions )
And, to be fair, I don’t see the point of bringing this to the pit. What is it going to achieve ? If Skewbald is making this up then he’ll probably know when/if he’s going to reveal the truth, otherwise he’ll bring it to some sort of logical conclusion, or stop posting. I doubt this thread will change that.
On the other hand I can’t see the point of posting a fictional account as if it where fact, but that’s just me. Actually, thinking about it, posting a fictional piece as truth means you get praised for your writing style (if it’s any good) but avoid most of the (mostly constructive) criticism that would spring from posting a fictional piece.
For what it’s worth I don’t really see a problem with anything that’s happened being too ‘out there’, although I admit my world view can a touch more rose-tinted than some when it comes to tales like this. I’m saying it’s all true, just that I don’t see it being that implausible.
Bottom line, I’d don’t really care if it’s true or not and I don’t see what this thread is going to achieve.
SD
And, on preview, what Stephi said about it being true and Pajama Girl finding this thread.
For those of you saying “Aaaawww…it’s just a story. No-one’ll get hurt.” please take a look at the following shitstorm here, here, and here.
Assuming that Skrewis making it up (and I’ll conceed that there’s no proof that he is), how is what he’s doing any different than what Little Tassie did, except that Little Tassie’s story was sad not happy ?
It seems that many of the people saying “It’s just a story. No one gets hurt from stories on the internet” are newer posters, Please read the linked threads to see what sort of grief this kind of thing can stir up.
I agree. I couldn’t make it through his first three posts without worrying my teeth would fall out from all the sugary goop. So I can’t speculate about whether it’s true or fake, though I’m guessing fake [sub]what, I just speculated? Oh, hush up.[/sub].
Some people loved The Bridges Of Madison County, sighing over the romance of it and clasping the book to their (heaving) breasts. Some people loathed it as overheated setimental shite – a book which, in the words of Dorothy Parker, should not be laid aside lightly; it should be thrown with great force.
I take it what we have here is another Bridges Of Madison County. Those who love it don’t care if it’s true or not. As one who did not love it (at least the part of it I could get through), I wouldn’t love it any more if it were true.
But the guy is apparently putting forth an entertaining story that many people are thoroughly enjoying so, real or not, good for him.
You know, that’s a good question, and one I wondered about before posting what I did. I think this is slightly different in a couple of ways.
There has been speculation in the thread itself that this may not be the whole truth. I think most people reading the thread are accepting this fact. Although, as you say, there’s no proof either way.
I do take your point about this causing a big mess and feelings getting hurt. I think I was trying to question the validity of this thread, if the stories true then people questioning come off looking cynical (at best) and if it’s false it just generates more attention to the original.
But I can’t find (or word correctly) an answer to “Does it make a difference because it’s a happy story?”, although I think somehow it does.
So, let me ask the rest of you who’ve followed the original thread from day one, if the story was revealed to be utterly false tomorrow how would you feel ? I doubt I’d care, but then I read the story today, maybe I’d feel different if I’d followed it day to day.
I seem to recall a poster several years back who would create fictional stories, pass them off as true, get repeatedly banned and repeatedly come back. You know what we called that?
I disagree. I didn’t say he has write well, once again I’m unable to notice if something is well written or not in english. But he doesn’t use the direct style most use on this board. He isn’t recounting events but telling a story, and tries to tell it in a pleasant way. As soon as he’s telling a story, I must envision that this story could be fiction. That’s what made me suspicious at the first place.
I won’t drop the criteria. Being a human being is enough of a credential to judge human behavior. My BSmeter is highly dependant on what I feel. Do you always believe whatever a stranger say just because you don’t have a PhD in psychology?And “not being romantically repressed” is certainly not the way I would qualify her attitude. Her behavior is full of contradictions.
In case my english wasn’t enough of a hint, I’m not american.
That’s possible. That’s why I only added ten points. But note that there’s always an erotic element, and the author never trespass the line of the “slightly erotic”. What he describes could happen, sure. It also happens to fit perfectly in what would be allowed on this board while still offering some titallation to the readers.
She’s a dream girl. Physically, for instance. She’s very erotic. More important, she always seems to follow his own pace. Never rush him. Always offers him what he want and just a little bit more to lead him closer to her. If she’s for real, she should apply for a job of Geisha. Real love story are usually much more disorganized and there are quite always differences in the expectations of both partners. Extremely few 18 y.o. would be able to cope in such a wise way with these difference. She appears to be a wise guardian angel, not a teen-ager.
Please note also that they happen to be exactly 18 y.o. Which means they are the youngest possible persons who could indulge in an erotic story without it being an issue for anybody, or an issue for this board. According to US laws, of course. It could be true. But how convenient!
If you don’t perceive it as as “American”, it’s probably because you’re american yourself. I can’t be absolutely sure about these cultural differences, since for instance this guy could be, say, Norwegian, and norway could be extremely americanized. I never lived there, so I don’t know. But indeed the story clearly made me think about an american soap-opera. Concerning the specific point I noted :
-The date thing. The very formal american system of “dates” is a mystery for most europeans. it seems extremely ritualized, full of implicit rules, etc…A lot of us plainly don’t get it, and don’t even understand exactly what the status of one’s “date” is.
-The prom thing : well…perhaps there are actually proms in some northern european countries. But proms aren’t an universal concept. Even less so proms where kids would go with their most beautiful outfits (as opposed to the most “cool” attire). There could be proms where he lives. Kids could dress well for these proms. That’s possible. But this is another detail which raise my suspicion in a long list
-The modesty thing : well…americans are quite well known for stressing “modesty” more than europeans. I noticed this “modesty” several times. I just can’t remember right now, and didn’t even paid much attention. But to give you an example : how many attractive young european girls would tan on the beach with a top? Sure, part of them won’t go topless. It’s not a proof that the story is faked. But another suspicious detail, once again.
-The speedo : you got it wrong. I didn’t mean that speedos don’t exist in Europe. But at the contrary that they’re extremely common. It’s the most usual bathsuit for a male, and even mandatory in swimming pools in several countries. So, pretty much everyone would have one, and nobody would be embarrassed about it. Once again, perhaps in this unknow european country the norm is different and a speedo is unusual and embarassing, like in the US. But, still…another suspicious detail. Though perhaps I’m misleaded on this one, since you seem to consider “Speedo” as a brand, while I understood as a generic name of the little swimsuits used by professionnal swimmers.
-Something else I just thought about : the guy notice the “cursive” writing of his gf. Perhaps in this mysterious country people notice cursive because most people write in print. But there are many countries where cursive is the overwhelming norm, and pretty much nobody write in another way. Another detail.
Well…I mainly noted this point because I found it amusing, actually. However, what is the water temperature of the North Sea now? A couple of scandinavian people posted on this thread. Would they bath on their shores, currently? Of course, that’s possible. There are people much bolder than me.
Because, once again, though it’s possible (I already saw horse riders on the seashore myself) it’s very uncommon. What’s the likehood of such an event taking place on their first date on the beach? But it adds a pleasant element to the story. It’s the accumulation of unlikely but always pleasant (sometimes, one could see for instance a bike on a beach…for some reason, such displeasant occurences never happen in this romance…just like they don’t in movies) details which makes the story unbelievable.
Also the writer mentions a galloping horse, but no rider (it would be much less romantic, don’t you think?). How many horses galloping freely on a beach have you seen? (especially since horses don’t really appreciate beaches, usually)
Yes…once again, it is possible. He could have a boat. He could know a perfect and desert island. How likely is it? How many perfect and always positives unlikely details are needed for someone to doubt that a story is for real?
I disagree. I didn’t say he has write well, once again I’m unable to notice if something is well written or not in english. But he doesn’t use the direct style most use on this board. He isn’t recounting events but telling a story, and tries to tell it in a pleasant way. As soon as he’s telling a story, I must envision that this story could be fiction. That’s what made me suspicious at the first place.
I won’t drop the criteria. Being a human being is enough of a credential to judge human behavior. My BSmeter is highly dependant on what I feel. Do you always believe whatever a stranger say just because you don’t have a PhD in psychology?And “not being romantically repressed” is certainly not the way I would qualify her attitude. Her behavior is full of contradictions.
In case my english wasn’t enough of a hint, I’m not american.
That’s possible. That’s why I only added ten points. But note that there’s always an erotic element, and the author never trespass the line of the “slightly erotic”. What he describes could happen, sure. It also happens to fit perfectly in what would be allowed on this board while still offering some titallation to the readers.
She’s a dream girl. Physically, for instance. She’s very erotic. More important, she always seems to follow his own pace. Never rush him. Always offers him what he want and just a little bit more to lead him closer to her. If she’s for real, she should apply for a job of Geisha. Real love story are usually much more disorganized and there are quite always differences in the expectations of both partners. Extremely few 18 y.o. would be able to cope in such a wise way with these difference. She appears to be a wise guardian angel, not a teen-ager.
Please note also that they happen to be exactly 18 y.o. Which means they are the youngest possible persons who could indulge in an erotic story without it being an issue for anybody, or an issue for this board. According to US laws, of course. It could be true. But how convenient!
If you don’t perceive it as as “American”, it’s probably because you’re american yourself. I can’t be absolutely sure about these cultural differences, since for instance this guy could be, say, Norwegian, and norway could be extremely americanized. I never lived there, so I don’t know. But indeed the story clearly made me think about an american soap-opera. Concerning the specific point I noted :
-The date thing. The very formal american system of “dates” is a mystery for most europeans. it seems extremely ritualized, full of implicit rules, etc…A lot of us plainly don’t get it, and don’t even understand exactly what the status of one’s “date” is.
-The prom thing : well…perhaps there are actually proms in some northern european countries. But proms aren’t an universal concept. Even less so proms where kids would go with their most beautiful outfits (as opposed to the most “cool” attire). There could be proms where he lives. Kids could dress well for these proms. That’s possible. But this is another detail which raise my suspicion in a long list
-The modesty thing : well…americans are quite well known for stressing “modesty” more than europeans. I noticed this “modesty” several times. I just can’t remember right now, and didn’t even paid much attention. But to give you an example : how many attractive young european girls would tan on the beach with a top? Sure, part of them won’t go topless. It’s not a proof that the story is faked. But another suspicious detail, once again.
-The speedo : you got it wrong. I didn’t mean that speedos don’t exist in Europe. But at the contrary that they’re extremely common. It’s the most usual bathsuit for a male, and even mandatory in swimming pools in several countries. So, pretty much everyone would have one, and nobody would be embarrassed about it. Once again, perhaps in this unknow european country the norm is different and a speedo is unusual and embarassing, like in the US. But, still…another suspicious detail. Though perhaps I’m misleaded on this one, since you seem to consider “Speedo” as a brand, while I understood as a generic name of the little swimsuits used by professionnal swimmers.
-Something else I just thought about : the guy notice the “cursive” writing of his gf. Perhaps in this mysterious country people notice cursive because most people write in print. But there are many countries where cursive is the overwhelming norm, and pretty much nobody write in another way. Another detail.
Well…I mainly noted this point because I found it amusing, actually. However, what is the water temperature of the North Sea now? A couple of scandinavian people posted on this thread. Would they bath on their shores, currently? Of course, that’s possible. There are people much bolder than me.
Because, once again, though it’s possible (I already saw horse riders on the seashore myself) it’s very uncommon. What’s the likehood of such an event taking place on their first date on the beach? But it adds a pleasant element to the story. It’s the accumulation of unlikely but always pleasant (sometimes, one could see for instance a bike on a beach…for some reason, such displeasant occurences never happen in this romance…just like they don’t in movies) details which makes the story unbelievable.
Also the writer mentions a galloping horse, but no rider (it would be much less romantic, don’t you think?). How many horses galloping freely on a beach have you seen? (especially since horses don’t really appreciate beaches, usually)
Yes…once again, it is possible. He could have a boat. He could know a perfect and desert island. How likely is it? How many perfect and always positives unlikely details are needed for someone to doubt that a story is for real?
Thanks for the thoughtful response SpaceDog! Let me add one additional point. Now that (some) people are wrapped up in the story, (again, assuming it’s fiction), what if he DOES pull a “Little Tassie”?
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< sob >
Pyjama Girl and I were on Pirate Island when we saw a storm coming in fast. We decided to get out, but first I admired the way the dappled sunlight highlit her creamy skin. We were half-way across the lake when the storm struck!
Lighting and thunder were crashing around us! The waves roiled! Despite it being the middle of the day, it was black as night. And the rain pounded down. I tried to shelter her with my coat, but it did no good. The boat capsized.
I awoke on the shore and tried to get up. Strong hands held me down. “Where is she?!” I cried, as I vomited up lakewater. “Where is Pyjamagirl?!”
“Just try to relax” a voice said.
“Not until I see her!” I screamed and pushed the ambulence driver away. She was no-where in sight.
They took me to the hospital and there she was…in a coma.
I can’t…
I won’t lose her! Can all you people pray for her? I’ve never been religous before, but now…
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At least some people believe he’s telling the truth (and he may be.) But IF he’s not, what’s the point of not just saying it’s fiction or a fantasy if not some sick sort of manipulation of people’s emotions?