Anyone excited about the Torchwood Debut?

Oswald is anti-“Dead is Dead”. The camps (per Gwen’s husband) are being spun as the best possible place to take loving care of people who need extended care. The hospital Oswald was in was probably purposely set up as a hellhole (unlikely that all of those places ‘accidently’ sent people too early) - the camps will be spun as a humane alternative. Oswald’s little performance was all about taking care of people.

I like this. Are there vampires in the Who-verse (Dr., not Cindy Lou)? Since I understand this is a spin-off of some sort?

Yes. Quite a few different varieties of them, in fact.

There are regular human-turned-human-like-bloodsucker Vampires.

There are also…

Saturnynians
Plasmavores
Haemovores
Great Vampires (They created at least a couple of the normal-style vamps.)

And a couple others, but those 5 cover the ones that have been seen on-screen, AFAIK.

Hate to be pissy, but I thought most of the episode fairly sucked. A lot of that crap could have been put in a free webisode or something. The sex was completely out of left field, unneeded, and I’m embarrassed for them feeling they had to cram it in there to make the show “adult” or something.

Bleh. Hope it finds its feet, but they don’t have much time left.

I liked most of the fourth episode. It moved a bit faster than the earlier ones. We’re starting to see the ugly and disturbing side of Miracle Day. The public reaction to the undead will only get worse.

Oswald showed some brilliance in regaining his position as Miracle Day spokesman. I’m still not sure about this guy or what he will do. Bill Pullman is stealing the show with this character.

Mare Winningham did a good job playing the tea party lady. I still fondly remember her from St Elmos Fire. Seems so weird seeing her now middle-aged.

I’m getting very fed up with the personal phone calls. Esther & Gwen need a reality check. Even Rex visiting his drug dealer dad was very unprofessional. Torchwood better get its act together.
Best scene had to be crushing the car and entombing tea party lady forever. I don’t think she’ll be back. :smiley:

Wait, I’m confused. Your location tag says you’re in the US, but I think you’re a week behind as the sex was in the third episode (Dead of Night), while the fourth one (Escape to L.A.) was what aired last night.

I find it hard to believe that Oswald could become such a public figure. When he picked up the baby in the hospital, I expected the other patients to be reviled but they were not.

And I’m trying to figure out how many factions there are. The character played by C. Thomas Howell who tracked them to the PhiCorp headquarters presumably works for someone else.

The idea that vampires are behind this sounds like a good one, although I don’t know how they caused the miracle to occur.

Only the one old guy seemed to actually recognize him. Since these folks are the sickest of the sick, they may not be keeping up on the latest celebrities.

The public figure thing isn’t that hard to accept - his survival would be news (as it happened on Miracle Day. And he’s not universally (or even widely) loved (note his beat down last week).

With a PR push behind him and a seemingly good cause (care for the should be dead so that other people can get on with their lives) - I could see him swinging more public opinion his way.

I’m happy we’re finally getting to a real villain, other than “evil pharm company.” Also, I seem to forget the premise of this show every ten minutes. I’m constantly going, “He’s going to kill him! Oh, wait…”

Yeah, the Oswald thing kinda bugs me too. You really think people would stop hating Casey Anthony if she started speaking about the debt crisis or the Iraq War?

Howell was hired by the triangle people (who seem to be behind PhiCorp) to kill Jack, but I think he was so curious about the fact the Jack could die that he went off on his own.

But if C Thomas Howell’s character worked for PhiCorp’s backers, why did he need to go to such extremes to get access to the computer room?

BTW, I’m not enjoying this series as much as I did Children of Earth. Partly, it was that Children of Earth was shorter, and so it moved more quickly. Also, it aired over five consecutive nights, which helped to keep me interested.

The personal calls, unprofessionalism, etc is basically all par for the course for Torchwood. Remember Jack’s plan in Children of the Earth was basically to run up to the alien and tell him “fuck you”, he slept around with team members most of whom mis used alien technology. There’s a reason everyone but Gwen is dead. Their modus operandi has always been extreme overconfidence backed up by a guy who can’t die and their high casualty rate is the result.

Also, Esther(? the CIA woman) isn’t a professional field agent. She undoubtedly thought she was being careful - and will actually be careful in the future, now that she really understands what it is about.

She wasn’t any less careful than the hypocrite CIA guy who went to see his dad.

Vampires? There are fuckin’ VAMPIRES on the show? I’ve only seen the first episode and have been meaning to catch up watching the others using On Demand service, but fucking’ vampires… Thanks for saving me the time… I think. Season two will have werevolves, I suppose.

Season 2 aired in 2008. This is the fourth season. But no, no werewolves…those have been restricted to the Doctor’s adventures, not Jack’s.

Funnily enough, werewolves did show up in the second season of the current Doctor Who series (Tooth and Claw).

People are just speculating that they’re vampires (which I really doubt they are). And at least in NuWho, all the vampires/werewolves/other mythological creatures in the universe are really just aliens.

I was only speculating. But it would amuse me greatly if that somehow became an uncontrolled rumor.

Thank god! I almost punched my TV.

It probably is vampires though.

The guy in the server room said something like “the families will rise again.” This season is supposed to be completely independent of Doctor Who, right? Now that they have different production teams? So I don’t think that’s going to end up referring to some previous villain.

I’m caught up now. :slight_smile:

“Families” had me wondering too. What could be the families?

The Family of Blood? Doesn’t seem to be their style.

It obviously has to be someone with an absurd amount of Power - and that was a deliberate P.

-Joe