Don’t you see how pretending to be neutral here would lend even less credence. I’m not taking your bait, not castigating anyone here, JUST seeing who has the stones to admit that in this political climate they are refusing to consider not supporting candidates who (IMO) self-identify as reprehensible pandering Neanderthal thugs. I’m curious about certain particular Dopers who often claim to be open-minded Republicans and how they’re voting, but it’s turning out to be curious which conservatives refuse to commit themselves to a vote in this poll, too. That tells me a lot, too.
I went for the "inclined to Obama"choice but assuming Gov. Romney gets the nomination, I will listen to him. If he moderates his message after getting the nomination then he has a chance at getting my vote. If he continues to go for the “stupid” vote then Pres. Obama will get my vote.
It’s true but it has nothing to do with the debates. The SDMB is made up primarily of yellow dog Democrats (if American) who would never vote for a GOP candidate for President no matter what.
What is sometimes amusing and sometimes disgusting is that a lot of them call the kind of bigoted hate that went into the OP and all his subsequent posts to this thread as being “neutral”. As well as the pretense that there was any kind of thought involved in his decision as to who to vote for.
Come on - he made it a public poll so he knows who he is insulting. PandaBear77 has it exactly right - the point of this poll is to communicate “if you vote Republican I hate you and will call you names”.
Regards,
Shodan
Gosh, I would have thought you’d be proud of who you were voting for, or voting against. I know I am.
I don’t know why you would be proud - autonomic nervous reflexes aren’t exactly virtues.
Regards,
Shodan
I’m not an American, but it seems to me that the issues divide up into two sorts of camps. Firstly, ones where reasonable people might disagree, like “how do you fix an economy in the slump” or “after how many months is it wrong to get an abortion?” On those issues, I tend to be left-wing, but I appreciate why someone might take the opposite view, so, in theory, I might vote for a Republican candidate who was strongly pro civil liberties, even if I disagreed with their economic policies, or something.
But the current American political landscape seems to be dominated by the other sorts of issues, where one side just seems incomprehensible and repugnant to me. Things like:
- should women be punished just for being women?
- should we randomly blow up foreign countries because we haven’t really thought our strategy through and hope it happens to be the right thing?
- should we kidnap innocent people, deny them any sort of due process let alone a fair trial, then torture or kill them?
- should people die of preventable medical conditions?
Now, Obama has definitely done some bad things on those issues, and if, in theory, a republican candidate came out strongly against ANY of them, it might be a difficult question. But most “generic republicans” seem a lot worse than Obama, and all of the current Republican nominees seem worse than that. So it doesn’t seem likely I’d vote for anyone else, whether I like him or not.
I voted other because I will not be voting for Obama nor will I be voting for the eventual Republican candidate. I will likely either vote third party or maybe stay home; it depends on what third party offerings there are.
Obama has done more or less what I expected, made a few good moves and a few really bad ones. The thing is, while I think he’s done decent as far as a major party candidate goes, I still disagree with a lot of his agenda.
For the Republicans, I probably agree most with Paul and I love his directness, but the parts I disagree with him on are pretty big deals, like his naive approach to economics. Romney is a windsock, Newt is a conceited prick, and Santorum is just nuts.
The one thing I do stick to for voting is I refuse to do is vote “against” a candidate by voting for the opposing major party. I think it’s precisely that sort of attitude that’s gotten us into this mess because we’re no longer electing who represents us just who doesn’t represent what we hate. So I’m happy to vote third party, if they’re on the ballot and I sufficiently agree with them, I’ll vote for them. If there’s no one on the ballot I sufficiently agree with, I doubt I’d want to wait in line for 4 hours just to write-in as a protest.
My vote is for “funniest poll ever.”
It is unfortunate that in the USA we have a strictly 2-party system. With rare exceptions, it is a choice between the lesser of two evils. Until a third-party candidate comes along who is wealthy, sane, and charismatic, we are stuck with the powers that be. I’m no big fan of Democrats, but I haven’t seen a decent Republican president since Gerald Ford-- and he was only tolerable. I’ve seen a couple of OK GOP candidates over the years, but of course they never had a chance.
I thought Clinton was a good president, despite his faults. Obama isn’t as great as I’d hoped he’d be, but he’s not bad. The Republican alternatives are like that book of horrible questions: “Would you rather (a)eat rotten pig guts, (b)drink gasoline, or ©eat broken glass?”
I’ll vote for Porky Pig if he is the Republican nominee. Obama has to go.
Other, because I’m Canadian. I thought Obama would be “meh” and he hasn’t disappointed me! But I don’t think I could vote for the crazy side.
Hey, remember this thread?
Well, I think Dopers are a relatively clever lot…
(74% for Obama so far)
Why so?
Nope.
Man, talk about projection! I’ve had exactly two Democratic Presidents seeking re-election since I became eligible to vote, Carter and Clinton, and I supported exactly none of them. You, on the other hand, have (unless I’m very miuch mistaken about your character and your voting history) have never had a good word to say about any Democrat ever, and have supported ever evil thug the Republican party has ever nominated, the more evil, the more fervent your support. So who votes his conscience here and who votes his autonomic nervoud reflexes?
This poll is proving very interesting, more interesting than I had thought it would. Instead of just putting people (or user-names, really) on record, it’s the people who refuse to participate (and the lame-o reasons they give for refusing to commit themselves publically, insofar as the SDMB is public) that fascinate me. it’s almost as if they refuse to see how bad a position the Republicans have created for themselves: if you identify as leaning Republican at this point in time, you’re admitting that you don’t really care about the economy, foreign policy, intelligent public discourse, etc.–you’re just a party-line hater and you’ll vote for just about anyone or anything rather than a Democrat (or a black man, but we needn’t get into that now). If you refuse to identify as a Republican at this point (by not voting in this poll) but years from now attack Obama (as you have attacked him up to his point) you’re emerging as a gutless hater, reserving the retrospective position of “I thought about voting for Obama, but I finally chose otherwise” for yourself, but you’re not fooling anyone at this point. I’d be interested if anyone who identifies as a Republican at this point can justify his stance, but that’s for another thread, I suppose. I would like to hear what you have to say in defense of voting for one of these terrible reactionary incompetents.
You answered your own question!
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This poll is proving very interesting, more interesting than I had thought it would. Instead of just putting people (or user-names, really) on record, it’s the people who refuse to participate (and the lame-o reasons they give for refusing to commit themselves publically, insofar as the SDMB is public) that fascinate me. it’s almost as if they refuse to see how bad a position the Republicans have created for themselves: if you identify as leaning Republican at this point in time, you’re admitting that you don’t really care about the economy, foreign policy, intelligent public discourse, etc.–you’re just a party-line hater and you’ll vote for just about anyone or anything rather than a Democrat (or a black man, but we needn’t get into that now). If you refuse to identify as a Republican at this point (by not voting in this poll) but years from now attack Obama (as you have attacked him up to his point) you’re emerging as a gutless hater, reserving the retrospective position of “I thought about voting for Obama, but I finally chose otherwise” for yourself, but you’re not fooling anyone at this point. I’d be interested if anyone who identifies as a Republican at this point can justify his stance, but that’s for another thread, I suppose. I would like to hear what you have to say in defense of voting for one of these terrible reactionary incompetents.
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I design questionnaires for a living. If you think this is what your poll is telling you, that’s pretty funny.
OK, Ms. Professional Questionnaire Designer, tell me what I did wrong. Or continue to snark, I don’t care that much. But telling me what I did wrong in designing this poll as I have is much more difficult to do.
Oh, that’s not difficult at all! It’s not so much a problem with the design (though the options are designed for you to draw the same conclusion from the second option as you do from the third), it’s that you’re drawing false conclusions from it. Especially given that the conclusions you’re drawing are based on people who AREN’T answering the poll. That’s a pretty strange approach.
Thanks for your expert advice. I’m sure people will derive much meaning from it.
This pretty much sums up my opinions. I don’t expect to be voting/drinking gasoline/eating pig guts this time around.