Ask a 23 year old virgin anything

I’m not from reddit.

The tone of some of your posts suggests you’re sad because you can’t get laid (sorry to be vulgar), but that’s not really the case at all, right? You’re wanting to marry a nice Muslim woman, I presume, and you’re worried your social skills are going to prevent this from happening. But why be worried, so soon?

I have no idea what are the mechanisms for Muslims to meet and pair up in marriage – doesn’t the family have quite a lot to do with it? But however that works, you have lots of time. You’re 23. Plenty of time to improve your social skills. YEARS to work on them – in a whole decade from now, you’ll still be very young, marriageable, hopefully with a career … LOTS of time. Most 23-year-olds are awkward. Calm down. :slight_smile:

But if you really do have a problem with socializing and presenting yourself, you’ve got to take charge of the problem and work on yourself. It will only get better by doing, and it will be uncomfortable. You have to make yourself. Meet people, talk to them, be friends with them. Go out and do things. Focus on the needs of others – can you pitch in on a project, help someone out? DO you go to mosque? Make a pest of yourself there, asking to help out. Take a class, learn more about your religion. You’ll meet people and be forced to talk with them, and this will improve your social skills through repetition. And if you’re doing some good work for people other than yourself, you’ll feel better about yourself for that reason alone. Get out there!

I see, well glad it helped.

I have looked on some muslim matrimony sites but I don’t like the women I’ve come across over there. It’s making me depressed because I’m worried I’ll never find anyone I like on these sites. The problem is I have no friends and don’t know anyone in real life so I’m forced into using these online matchmaking sites which I have little faith in.

The women I see everyday in real life are far more attractive and it’s causing me a great deal of stress. Where I do work experience (I’ve never had a job), the people are on average more attractive than where I live. Its knocking down my self esteem having to see this everyday.

Agreed, but I would emphasize the latter.
I know people who sound like the OP who are 23, and some who are 33 and some 43.
And I was that way myself until about age 30. It’s a rut guys can get stuck in for a looong time.
A comforting rut in some ways (while you sit on the sidelines, you can tell yourself you’re a great guy if only girls would give you a chance. Rather than going to the trouble of actually being a great guy).
So as long as such guys think they have time, they kick the can down the road.

I suspect you may lose a little goodwill in the thread at this point.
You say you’ve never even dated before. Do you know whether you have a realistic prospect of the attractive women where you work dating you?
I don’t mean to dent your confidence; I’m not saying aim down.

What I’m saying is, you need to talk to people, and arrange a few dates, and start to build some idea of how attractive you are to others currently. Then you can work on making yourself more attractive.
In the meantime, you have no reason to limit your view to the stunners.

What is “work experience”?
Get a job or go to school. A 23-year-old with no job and dim future earnings prospects isn’t really even going to be able to get an ugly girl from a marriage website.

I’ve never understood this either. The SDMB seems to be tolerant of almost anyone except virgins.
Gay/lesbian? Tolerance and acceptance!

Obese? Tolerance and acceptance!

Muslim? Tolerance and acceptance!

Mental disorder? Tolerance and acceptance!

Transgender? Tolerance and acceptance!

Virgin? Hahaha, loser!

That’s self explanatory. I am currently studying and doing work but not getting paid. My future earning prospects are pretty good but that’s the future.

Is it possible to get a girlfriend without having a job?

Yes; I don’t even think it’s a big deal especially if, like you say, your future prospects are good and you have a clear plan.

I think in the main it’s only a turnoff if you have a sucky job / unemployed and you’re not doing anything to rectify it.

Oh, and for the sake of completeness, of course there are some women who would only date a guy if he earns X, but they are the minority IMO. I’ve had no issues dating women who earned a lot more than I did at the time, for example.

So what, suddenly you’re all for tolerance now that it affects you?

In the other thread you claimed women won’t date you. Well, gosh, I guess now we know why you don’t get many dates.

I don’t have any friends so it would be impossible to approach a woman. I was thinking lately about approaching a stranger in public but that would be utterly foolish.