Ok, so has that happened to anyone else? Radar totally off? I’m absolutely curious as to what happened.
Yea, I was in Madrid and I met this guy due to a mutual interest in the metro. Anyway, to make a long story short, he was sending me every kind of signal, so I tried to pick him up, and he was straight. Gr. That is so inconvenient!
Where do you go to meet people who are interested in metros? Seems kinda fetish-specific, doesn’t it? Is it the smell? The vibrations? The fact that you can transfer?
Thrusting your engine back and forth through dark, tight tunnels?
I have to admit that I’ve been puzzled at matt’s metro “thing” before. I kind of equated it with being obsessed with the local bus system. But I live in a faded railroad town, and it’s simply amazing the sheer number of people who congregate with their lawnchairs and picnic coolers in parking lots and outlying fields adjacent to the tracks to watch the trains come through. I guess there’s something about railroads, whether they’re above-ground or below.
I do not believe my beloved matt finds them interesting in a sexual way…
Esprix
BTW, seawitch, try the Gender Outlaw test
It’s not exactly a test like Kinsey, but is an interesting take on gender nonetheless.
(Kate Borenstein, the author, is a MtF living with a FtM btw, who IMHO raises some interesting ideas about the “cult of gender.”)
:: metro train goes into tunnel ::
OK, everyone ignore me again now - I generally go by what the spark tests say. BTW Esprix, you do rock
speaking of
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133327
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so much for gaydar. (or Matt, how do you pass?)
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what is a ‘potter’? (yeah, I checked the gay slang dictionaries, no luck) and no, I am not going to torture the hamster with a search.
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In the linked-to thread, someone said that metrophily is like Trainspotting for sober people.
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That just made that guy just even more of an unobservant asshole. I think you could miss out on your gaydar if you’d built a nice head of righteous indignation. Besides, when you’re taking photographs silently by yourself, there’s a limit to how femme you can possibly be.
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a “potter” is Potter, the poster.
Hey, I got whooshed by a gay guy this weekend - turns out he’s completely queer, which rather surprised me when he spent the night in my bed, let me tell you!
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Esprix
Hi
I wanted to ask if Gaydar and “come-on” signs work across national/cultural boundaries. I once ( a long time ago) read that US males thought that most European males were gay because of the way they cross their legs.
Another question. Are the signals that gay men pick up on the same as those that straight men would notice when they identify another man as gay?
Well, I got cruised by a hot blonde German guy as I was sitting in Mickey Mao’s in Yangshuo, China. I was minding my own business, eating lunch and watching a Black Adder video, whne this German guy asked if he could look at my Lonely Planet guide. At first, I thought nothing of it, but then the glances started flashing, and the next thing I knew we were going at it in his hotel room.
I think my Gaydar (R) needs a tune-up.
I was rather surprised when one of my profs. came out in class yesterday. Of course, I have a hard time spotting lesbians. My mind is usually much more focused on barefoot bears 
What is gay about a chaise longue?
(Note spelling of second word: French, long chair)
I’ve heard this as well. It’s a cultural thing, mostly, but not 100% accurate (as no gaydar truly is).
Not even close. 
Esprix
I know it’s been a while but this one just occured to me…
Dear Gay Guy:
Do you get sick of that Seinfeldian “Not that there’s anything wrong with that!” routing? I was musing to myself that if it referred to Jews I’d be pretty damn annoyed to hear it all the time.
-Curious and Hiding from the Sniper in Northern Virginia
Dear Gay Penthouse Letters… 
I’m jealous of your youth of decadence and torrid sex, gobear.
glances farther down the thread and pricks up his furry little ears at “barefoot bears”
So, Freyr…how you doin’? 
Well, hello Jayjay
sigh Why are the good ones always on the other side of the continent from me? grumble
I gotta work on that teleport spell! 
Hoo-boy. My First Jen-U-Ine Ask the Gay Guy question!
Dear Ever Wise Gay Guy;
So I am a heterosexual woman who has just gone through a bit of a heartbreak with a heterosexual man, and my friends know it. As a result, under the “The best way to get over a man is to get under a man” theory, they are all attempting to fix me up.
While at the local gay bar’s Karaoke night, attempting to drink my blues away with about 7 of my favorite queens, one of them grabs me by the waist and introduces me as “his beautiful girlfriend Swiddles” to this other handsome fellow. Now, this man is wearing a tight black t-shirt, his hair is gelled to kingdom come, pierced tongue, and he has on this fairly flashy belt-buckle. And, I reiterate, we’re in the local GAY bar’s KARAOKE night. We chat for a bit, and he offers to buy me a drink. I nicely turn it down, as I am driving home. Later on, while gossiping with a couple of my friends, one of them says “I just can’t BELIEVE that Mark. I mean, who is he kidding, pretending he’s straight? NO ONE.”
“Sure. He’s the faggiest fag that ever fagged the earth.”
“Wait a minute,” Swiddles says. “We’re talking about THAT guy?” I discreatly point to the same guy who offered to buy me a drink.
“Yea. He occasionally works the door here, he claims to have ‘experimented’ with men, but the child thinks he likes GIRLS. I mean, come ON. No offence…”
Oh, well. Swiddles thinks. Yet another boy who’s not ready to give up the picket-fence American dream of a “normal” heterosexual life. Yet I run into this self-same guy the next night at an afterhours party, and he asks me out. He happens to ask me out for a night when I do have to legitimately work, but he asks me out.
Now, wise Esprix: I pose this question to you. I do find this fellow reasonably attractive. And I AM attempting to get over another fellow. So perhaps a little rebound nookie wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. However, I do live by a few moral standards. No sleeping with married or attached men, and no sleeping with gay men who are really in it just make sure they’re still not attracted to women. It’s not fair to them, and it’s REALLY not fair to me.
But if this guy really DOES think he’s straight, then he doesn’t fall into the later category. So is it wrong/a mistake for a heterosexual woman to get involved with a guy who obviously has sexual orientation issues? I’m pretty sure it would just end up with Swiddles getting abandoned…again. But then again, what could be more dreamy for a fag hag like myself then a relationship with a nearly gay man, who’s straight? And what am I, the Gay Judge Judy, proclaiming that just because a man fits pretty much EVERY fay stereotype, that automatically makes him gay? I’m fairly sure I’ll run into this guy again, the town I live in isn’t all that big.
Help me out here, Esprix. When I discuss this with my best friend, the Will to my Grace, he just launches into a Margaret Cho impression: “He SOO gay. When he born, I look at him and say ‘You gonna be PE teacha!’”
May Cher tour forever,
Swiddles
Honey, what do you want from him - a one night stand, a casual dating relationship or to marry him? You use the word “relationship” a couple times, yet you say you just want some nookie.
If it’s nookie you want, take it and run (before he gets a chance to abandon you ["… again."]). I’m reading there might be a chance you want a little more than that - that would be a mistake, if this guy’s still trying to figure out his own sexuality at his age. Is that something you really want to get involved with? Not more than the few hour(s) it takes for you to get yo’ freak on, baby - then kick his ass out of bed. (What’s the phrase? “Find 'em, fuck 'em, fuggedabout’em.”)
Make up yer mind, baby! 
Esprix