I should have added - it’s not universally agreed, and as the terms are relatively new I expect definitions will continue to evolve. But IME most people use trans more inclusively than just non-cis binary male/female identities.
Do you not want people to call you cisgender because you are not “a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex”?
I don’t know where gender fluidity fits in the nomenclature. Like I said, maybe it’s a 3rd category all its own. If it’s all a spectrum, and a complicated one at that, maybe there are even other useful gender breakdowns. Heck, at a micro-level, each of us experience our gender uniquely, and even two cis men might have really divergent senses of what it feels like to be their gender (just as each of us has a unique sense of what it is to be our own selves).
I do think, again, that there are functional uses for the terms cisgender and transgender. They describe real people. Maybe the binary is a broken way to describe it (after all, male/female itself turns out to be broken in many ways), but if the definition for either doesn’t apply to (the general) you, then stand up and argue for a third (or fourth or fifth) gender to be acknowledged.
At the moment the one miracle I’d like to do would be to murder this tedious argument over definitions and get the OP (or any red-piller, honestly) to answer my question in post #53. Because I’m honestly curious whether I could get an answer that wouldn’t sound self-incriminatingly stupid.
I wasn’t aware that I needed to explain why I don’t want to be called something, simply the fact that I don’t want to be called it. Has that standard changed?
I’m sure there are a great many uses for the terms, and other terms as well, and others are free to use them or any other ones as much as needed or wanted. I simply ask to not refer to me as cisgender. If for some unknown reason that my gender identity is relevant, I refer to myself as gender-typical. Use that if you must. I do not wish to force others to use that term to describe anyone else but me. Should not be too difficult.
If you do not want to be called cisgendered, that’s fine. No one is going to do so.
But you aren’t happy enough with that, for some reason. You continue to argue about the word, even after everyone has told you that they have no desire nor inclination to call you by that.
That’s alot of words for something that you don’t care about, you pentadactyl.
That’s not a thing. I will describe you, or anyone else, as dark-haired, short, tall, black, white, African-American, football fan, birder, trekkie, or whatever else is an appropriate and accurate word.
If you don’t like it, but it’s what you are, I don’t know what to tell you. I’ll maybe try to not use the word to your face, but if the adjective is accurate, I’ll have no qualms about using it to describe you when appropriate and useful.
There is a fundamental difference between not wanting to be called something that doesn’t describe you, and not wanting to be called something that does describe you.
Great! I’ll call you gender-typical. But I’ll also include you when I talk about cisgendered people, because, as far as I can tell, there is nothing about the meaning of that word that does not apply to you. If someone asks, “is manson1972 cisgendered?” I’ll answer “yes, though he prefers to be called gender-typical.”
I think you can, but it requires walking a pretty narrow tightrope.
For instance, supporting free and easy access to abortion with racial motives in mind, because many women who get abortions are black, and so abortion suppresses the black population, a form of indirect eugenics.
Or maybe pro-LGBT - I think folks like Milo Yiannopolous show that being alt-right and pro-LGBT isn’t that far-fetched an idea.
Being atheist and anti-religion is probably totally compatible with the alt-right, and yet many folks on the left are also atheist and/or anti-religion. Think an alt-right version of Bill Maher.