Ooh, that’s ME, ME, do me next–oh, wait, I’m on the team…Hey, aha, gimme a boost, Freak says I’m next…
(and I was looking to get laid, actually, but I’d have to check with the Better Half first–I don’t know how he feels about threesomes. Amazing how little you can know about a person after 26 years…)
Yep, well I feel confident that if I didn’t have a wife and two kids, ultress would be happy to lay me. Until then we have to be content just being pals.
CnoteChris- I’m going to try to explain this one last time. If you don’t get it this time, I’m giving up on you.
When I named her, it was as an instance. No more, no less. And when I continued to talk about her it was because I was defending what I’d said. And when I read what she said in that thread, I thought it was out-of-line. If I was wrong, well, I was wrong. It’s not the first time that’s happened.
And in my opinion, they shouldn’t. But I’m not going to pretend that my word is law. And if you disagree with me, fine. Just say so. But don’t try to defend it by saying “lots of people do it”. That’s not a justification. Hell, lots of people smoke crack, does that mean they should? I know lots of people do it. I wouldn’t have started a thread about it if they didn’t.
Am I arrogant? Probably. But I don’t need to be here for a long time to know how things work, it’s the same as anywhere else: You sleep in A. You eat in B. You shit in C. (credit given where credit’s due, this is Lenny Bruce’s little tidbit of wisdom) The problem is when someone comes along and shits in B. I mean, this is pretty obvious, isn’t it? You don’t shit on the dining room table, and you don’t eat off the toilet. We need a special place to shit, because if we don’t have one, then we’ll start shitting anywhere. That’s why they came up with toilets. And I’m pretty sure that’s also why they came up with The Pit. As it says in the main page of SDMB “The BBQ Pit: If you gotta flame, do it here.” Perhaps I’m misinterpreting this.
Ah, so the newer someone is, the more full of shit they are? So, does that apply to you as well? I guess you’ve just put yourself in the same boat as me. No wonder it’s sinking.
I wasn’t, and I’m still not. The only reason it became one is because she flamed me. Not the other way around.
Ah, so when Coldfire does it, and when you do it, and when ahadoes it, it’s fine. When I do it, it’s because I’m simple minded. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Now if only you could clear up my acne too.
Great! Now you know how I felt when I read her comment to Anniz. So, by the same reasoning, were you offended when ultress flamed me? No? I wonder why. Perhaps because you’re biased?
Well, as you said “If you don’t like it, don’t read it.”
Well then, your flame must have been in the negatives, because “butthead” ain’t exactly original, nor is calling someone a “festering boil”, or saying that “people don’t like you”.
If people keep calling you a bitch, how many times is it going to take before you get the hint? If one person calls you a bitch, well, that’s their opinion. When it starts to get into the triple digits, one begins to think that maybe you are a bitch.
Well, she named herself now (yes, Falcon was the woman I was talking about), does that raise my score? Now if only he, and the other woman who just agreed with me this morning would make themselves known…
Actually, she probably won’t step up, she doesn’t like confrontation. And I think naming her would be an invasion of privacy. But I’m sure he’ll make himself known, I don’t think he’s adverse to confrontation. In fact, I bet he would’ve replied earlier if he could have. But I guess we’ll soon find out.
They’ve had plenty of time to ban me. Why haven’t they done so? Perhaps because the mods don’t feel the same way as you do.
Oh no! You mean I won’t have to see you in my threada any more? I’m hurt, truly, I am.:rolleyes:
Since my name seems to be coming up let me clear a few things up:
I do not have a problem with ultress. I do not have a problem with Freak. There are only three posters at the moment that I hate beyond reason.
Apparently, there was some kind of a joke going on over there in MPSIMS and I was not privy to it. But even it there wasn’t a joke, I still don’t think ultress’ post was overly nasty or harsh. In fact, before I posted my own comment there, her’s didn’t even so much as blip my “asshole” radar. My own comment in there could be considered rude or mean but I meant it as a joke.
All I can tell you Freak is that there are a lot of “inside” jokes between two or more posters. For three days I went around the board posting one of my own about Satan’s 3000 posts. A lot of posters called me stupid since, at the time, he had almost 4000. I let that slide because they didn’t know the joke. If someone started up a Pit thread about how stupid I was over that I would probably just gently inform them about the joke. Or, maybe I would have verbally ripped their head off and then metaphorically shit down the stump. I guess it would depend on the level of attack.
In your OP you made it sound like you had quite a few examples. The only one posted so far (that I had to link for you) was ultress’. I guess all you can do is either provide the links or back off.
Wasn’t obvious to me, wasn’t obvious to others, but that must be our faults for not getting it, not hers for failing to make her intentions clear.:rolleyes: Look, If she had just used a winking smile at the end of her jab, it would have been obvious. And this thread wouldn’t have been hijacked. And I wish she had, because I’m starting to regret that I ever named her as an instance of this happening.
I don’t think ultress should have said what she said either way. But I guess our opinions differ on that.
Point made. Point taken. You’re right on that count. I apologize, again.
Yes, and people also have a right to privacy.
Heehee! I have to admit, that one had me laughing. Well said.
Yes, and she could have stopped at saying “It was a joke. I didn’t mean it as an insult.” And I would have just apologized. Instead, she said that in the midst of an extremely insulting flame. Am I wrong for responding in kind? Granted, two wrongs don’t make a right. But how can I be wrong for doing something, and she be right for doing the same thing?
That said, I really am sorry. I had no idea that criticizing ultress would cause such a furor. Had I known this, I probably would have named some other instance of this kind of thing happening. But she was just the one that came to mind, because her insult (at least, that’s the way I saw it) was the latest one I’d seen in MPSIMS.
Now, with that said, I’m also sorry about the cheap shot I took at you, Duck and Feynn. That was uncalled for. I apologize yet again.
I agree. I didn’t feel one way or the other about her until she flamed me. However, now I do feel rather strongly about her. And I don’t think that should be surprising.
That said, I did provide another link way back there, it was this one: “Fat Guy, Ugly Face”. And that thread was a joke (an extremely mean joke that I think belonged in the Pit, but a joke nonetheless) in response to this one: Plain girl, great chest. A thread which I don’t think even warranted the responding thread.
And then there was that rash of Jebus threads, which got no end of flame responses. Responses which I think should have been posted in the Pit. And I’m sorry, but I’m not gonna track down every instance I’ve seen of this kind of thing happening, there’s just too many to link.
One instance was when Falcon responded in a rather mean way to my chat thread, here: Chat. But she apologized, and I respect her because she did. Ultress could’ve done the same, and explained where she was coming from, and I probably would’ve admitted that I was over the line.
Actually, I didn’t think it was rude or mean. But, while I could have been wrong about Ultress’ comment to that thread, at least three other people thought it was mean as well. And probably many others who didn’t want a confrontation. Now, she didn’t mean it as an insult, that’s been established. But in that case, I think she should have made it more clear that it wasn’t an insult, with a winking smile or an “I’m just kidding”, or follow your example by saying :TWEAK!:, or something along those lines.
This thread, as I’ve said before, wasn’t aimed at her.
That’s what she tried to do.
What I said wasn’t intended to be an attack, and I’m sorry if it was perceived as such. It was intended to be a minor criticism. I’ve said mean things in MPSIMS before, but I’ve changed my ways. Now I restrict all that stuff to the Pit.
It’s sinking because you decided to bring three times as much shit along as I did. Look at your count. Look at mine, once you stop looking at my ass.
I did it so you could concentrate on my points better. You do seem to have undying admiration for those posters. Too bad you can’t emulate anything else they do too. Like a memory, for one.
I believe you called me simpleminded for not understanding your initial post. A post and follow-ups that led everyone to single thread.
If there are so many you should have no problem picking out a couple from the massive field. Nice cop-out.
FWIW with that statement, you just took a big step in earning my respect on this board. Whether you even need it or not is something only you will decide.
Sure, there are always two sides to any situation and I realize that you are trying to defend yours but next time you post in the pit with a particular poster in mind ( especially a veteran poster) use the old carpenter’s rule. Measure twice, cut once.
Ultress is one of those verteran posters and you should have known you were going to draw plenty of opposition when you named her.
So the way I look at it freak is this way. This thread was a learning thread for you. You are now a wiser poster for it. If so compelled, I will participate in your future theads with no ill will towards you and I hope that you and Ultress will gain mutual respect for each other in the future. Meanwhile I would let this thread die a natural death.
I am not taking sides in the original argument here, mainly because I have not seen the thread in question, and I refuse to take sides on an issue I wasn’t around for. However, I just had to point out these two quotes from FreakFreely.
You’re trying to defend calling ultress a bitch by claiming that “lots of people do it,” Freak, but when someone does the same thing against you, THEY’RE wrong. Maybe you should start taking your own advice, and stop thinking that you are the only person around with all the answers.
WTF does my post count have to do with anything? It seems like this is always the last ditch effort of someone who can’t think of any real point to make. They either attack a person’s post count for being too low, or they attack it for being too high. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t, eh? Well I suppose I should take that as a compliment. Apparently my argument is so iron-clad that it’s the best you can come up with. You truly are lame.
And that’s exactly the reason I did it.
For Coldfire, yes. I don’t have the same admiration for aha, simply because I haven’t seen as much of what he’s said. But so far I’ve only seen reasons to like him, so he’s definitely moving up in my book. And my respect for someone is never undying, they can always fuck up so bad that I lose all respect for them. For instance, at one point in time, I had respect for you.
Apparently your memory ain’t so great either, because I never called you simple-minded. I called you narrow-minded, because you refuse to look at the issue from any other perspective than your own.
The reason I reposted that link was because she apparently didn’t see it the first time.
Yeah, you’re right. It was a cop-out. I didn’t want to name any more names because I’m getting really sick of this whole fucking thing. And if I named anyone else, I would soon be hearing from them. In fact, I didn’t want to name names in the first place. I thought the OP was broad enough and that enough people had seen this sort of thing happening that I wouldn’t have to. I thought I could make my point without having to back it up with links, therefore making my point and not offending anyone in particular. But now I suppose you’re gonna call that a cop-out too. Well, fuck you. I don’t care anymore. I’ve wasted enough time on you. You are completely hopeless, arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.
That’s just it, I really didn’t have her in mind when I started this thread. The OP was intended to be generalized. It was intended to be a rant from the soap box. Hell, it was intended to be funny. I wish I had refused to give any links. Of course, if I had, assholes like Cnote would’ve criticized me for it. Damned if I do, damned if I don’t. I guess I’m just plain damned.
You know Freak. I find it interesting that of all the people who posted to your thread, your focussing much of your time and effort on me.
This isn’t because of my Napster, Stealing MP3, Bill H, debacle is it? Find the apparent weak link in the chain and go after it. Flame me to get some last fleeting ounce of credibility in a loser thread?
You are so transparent it’s funny. You ride on the bootstraps of other’s and think their your best buds. You’ve referred to any number of ‘respected’ people who feel just like you do. I find it intriguing that none of your ‘admired and respected’ posters so hasn’t jumped in here in to save your ass. Veiled hyperbole to me. But I digress.
On to your latest points.
Lame, huh. Apparently your refering what I you said to you on page one. You might want to include the entire quote your refering to.
If it isn’t obvious to you by now, I was referring to the sinking boat analogy you mentioned. You have three times the amount, compared to me, of baggage on the sinking boat. Get it?
I looked at from the perspective that you Fucking gave me! You give us one thread to look at initially. You bitch at her for being mean. You then switch the argument to say ‘well, I never intended to go after her’. Interesting post right after you accused her of being mean and flaming an ‘innocent’ poster.
Then the scope widdens, ‘It’s more than just her, it’s everyone in MPSIMS’. You then provide one meaningless lousy link. How the fuck else am I suppose to look at it Freak?
If it’s narrow minded it’s because it reflects your narrow thread.
Finally, and this is my favorite, you decide to cop-out and not piss anyone else off and give us the line ‘there’s just too many to post here to list’. Give me a break.
You Fucking dolt. I never asked you for the fucking link to begin with. Byzantine did.
I came onboard only after she requested and posted the link that you referred her to.
I never would have responded to this stupid ass thread had it not been for your referral to that post. I had read it earlier in the evening and immediately got that it was meant in jest.
I wasn’t justifying calling her a bitch. I didn’t need any justification, my opinion is my own. I was pissed. I wasn’t trying to make a point, I was trying to offend her as much or more than she offended me.
How can you say that when I’ve consistently apologized? If she had just came in and told me her side of it without flaming me I probably would have apologized to her as well. But instead she set out to piss me off. And she succeeded. As it stands now, I’m never going to apologize to her, unless she apologizes to me. Which she’s made quite clear that she isn’t going to do. Why is it okay for her to flame me, but not the other way around?
Besides, I’ve tried to meet people half way. I’ve tried to see it from other people’s perspectives. I’ve even admitted several times that I might be wrong. What more do you want from me?
It’s true, I don’t like confrontation. However, I do agree that the comment made by Ultress in the dream guy thread was uncalled for. I thought so the minute I read it.