Um, the measurement problem is due to the uncertainty principle
What, exactly, do you mean by ‘unified field’? Because if you use it in the way it’s used in physics, then 1) we don’t know if it exists, 2) it’s actually currently nowhere, as (if it exists) it only exists at extreme temperatures not currently present in the universe, and 3) even then it’s only everywhere in the same sense that spacetime is everywhere (since everything is effectively an excitation of the field, it defines where things can be), which is vacuously.
What teachings/books/lectures are you deriving your ideas from?
No. The measurement problem is the question how, if a state is in a superposition, measurement induces the ‘collapse’ into a definite-value eigenstate of the observable being measured, while the uncertainty principle fundamentally derives from the noncommutativity of observables in quantum mechanics. They’re different things.
And that, in a nutshell is what life is all about - phenomenal experience
Not really, though it does allow escape from determinism into compatibilism where free-will and determinism can co-exist.
If the unified field exists, it proves the existence of a God-like phenomenon - whether you are willing to concede that God and the unified field are one and same is ultimately down to you. The point is that they have the same attributes so they must (as far as is discernable) describe the same phenomenon.
Of course this may well be a problem of appearences, since the brain is limited in representation it may be that it just cannot conceive of the differences, rendering you unaware of them. This is what I mean by science and religion pointing in the same direction, either they are onto something or they have both hit an impass innate to the mind, a place where any further postering will inevitably sound like describing the same thing since they are both trying to describe something that is undescribeable except through the use of analogy and metaphor.
For instance, you can only perceive 7 colours (qualia) so if I shine both red and green into your eyes you will see yellow. There is no yellow light outthere but you also cannot conceive of a new colour and you can’t perceive red and green in the same place at the same time so the brain does what it can which means presenting this information in terms of what you already understand - namely yellow. You’ve reached one of the many limitations of the mind where both yellow light and red/green light appear the same despite the fact that they are quite different.
It was a question, I was simply expanding my interpretation of it, no one asked you to stay anyway. I don’t expect you to have the same feelings. You said your piece, move along.
That’s a very nice interpretation of the universe, I like it! I’d like to think that that is part of my system as well; the idea that we can’t know, that we aren’t built for it.
Great post! At times I think some atheists are so vitriolic because in the past they have been persecuted, and so they want their chance to do the same. However, I would hope such an enlightened and intelligent group would realize that their very existence depends on the idea that we are free to believe as we wish and not be persecuted and denigrated for it.
I like that you are taking bits from other religions to pull together what you believe, I think I do the same. I may not believe the religion’s specifics, but there is a lot to be taken away from years of wisdom encapsulated in religion.
And posts like this are also a part of what drives me as an atheist-the thought that all you have to do is accept “nice interpretations” as facts and make your own reality is lazy thinking at best.
I really don’t think that is a fair assessment. I am not too lazy to be a Christian - I just don’t believe in Jesus. I am not undisciplined; I have a master’s degree, hold a steady job, pay my bills, am active in my community. The simplest way I can relate it is that I feel a certain divinity, and while I cannot ascribe that divinity to any one religion, I feel it nonetheless. I feel that there are some things that cannot be known that are key to this life, and while atheists may claim that we basically know the answer, this is not true. We don’t know what caused the big bang, where the universe expands into, when time started, will stop, or if it continues forever. To act as if you know these answers is vanity and goes against your scientific principles of not making postulation law.
Do you think that one cannot both have theism (or agnosticism) and have full faith in the scientific process?
And here comes the “Atheists are secretly God-Haters!” cheap shot that ignores anything and everything that has been posted by us in this thread and so many others. Is this an aspect of your “Reality is anything I want it to be” belief system?
That would be a long list covering 20 years of fascination with Cosmology, Physics, Emergence, Philosophy, Natural History, Evolution, Psychology, Cellular Biology, Neuroscience, Cosmogany essentially anything that can offer clues to the nature of reality. Don’t get me wrong, I am just an average Joe looking for interesting conversation, I claim no expertese, just trying to join the dots to form a holistic view that makes sense, primarily through logical deduction.
Your thought experiment falls short. You are assuming a faith that believes the divine would act to intervene in this world. In my belief that would surely end in my untimely death.
I can come up with an incredibly large number of cases where religionism/spiritualism has totally failed. Can you come up with cases where the scientific process, when properly applied, failed?
Czarcasm, are you unable to read and comprehend? I said “some”. There are those in every camp that cause the entire camp to have a bad name. I do not say that those members accurately represent your group.
And please, quit convoluting my words. I simply stated in a post that reality is whatever you perceive it to be, for you. Theoretically it is entirely possible that everything around you is all a construct of your mind.
What do you mean be ‘unified field’? In what sense is it ‘God-like’?
It’s not lazy thinking Czarcasm. if you honestly think you know the answers to what created this universe and why it is here please tell us because scientists are dying to know. The truth is we don’t know. And as an agnostic I feel that we don’t have the capacity to know. That isn’t laziness.
You are putting words into the mouths of atheists. Atheists do not claim to have all the answers. Atheists only claim is that evidence for god is lacking. Additionally, “because god” is not sufficient explanation for anything.
Preconceived notions do tend to get in the way.
I mean lazy and undisciplined in this specific area, not in all aspects of life.
Say what you will about the devoutly religious, at least they are putting effort in: memorizing scripture, following strict rules, agonizing over the proper interpretations of ancient books that have been translated far from their original language. I can respect that, in a way. I don’t think it produces anything of value, but the process itself has value.
Vague spiritualism has no such value. It demands nothing, it offers nothing, it is worth nothing. It largely exists to produce warm-and-fuzzies, without the cold materialism of atheism or the strict rules and work of religion.
That feeling is a product of your mind, and is not reflective of external reality.
If you’re very good at compartmentalization, sure. Otherwise, no.