I have been thinking about your problem since I first opened this thread.
You don’t want to go after her, as with your luck the cops will arrest you. (At least that is what would happen if I tried it. That bastard Murphy is always standing right behind me, just waiting.)
Anyway what you need to do is to convince this bitch and her hell spawn that you are bad ju-ju without having actually done anything that could get you arrested.
in other words you need to run a PSYOP on them.
Let me give you an example. I knew a guy who’s mom kept getting obscene phone calls. Finally he got one of the calls. Now this guy was an actor and pretty quick on the uptake, so as soon as the caller went into his spiel, my buddy responded. First off he clenched he teeth and panted very loudly between his teeth. The he said “I know you, your the man who killed my father. I know where you live, I am coming over there.” The obscene phone caller hung up on him, and never called back.
So may I suggest that you solicit suggestions from the SDMB as how to make them think that you are not a man to be screwed with.
I have two suggestions to kick it off with.
Do you still have any friends in the teams? Invite them to stop by. See if they can’t be in the front yard doing some type of SEAL craziness as hell spawn walk by after school. have the SEAL tell the kids that you once saved his life, and he is in your debt. He further explains that someone has been screwing with you, and if he finds out who they are, that person is in a shit pot full of trouble. He should then look them straight in the eye, and ask if they know anything about it?
Do you know any bikers? Not a RUB but a guy (or bunch of guys that are really into the lifestyle. Guys that look like they got thrown out of the Hells Angels cause they were too much of a scumbag. Scenario similar to #1 except after the kids leave, the guys on bikes follow them looping the block giving them the a long look each time they pass and the “I’m watching you” fingers to the eyes signal. I’m sure that if you toss this open to other suggestions, you will get some that make mine look like crap.
Oh, and I forgot until I was reminded by some the recent posts. Welcome to the boards, and thank you from the bottom of my heart for your service to our country. If we ever meet in real life, the drinks are on me.
I was thinking more along the lines of… what if she DOES decide she wants to burn your house down? Or, less dramatically, messes with one of your dogs? Or smashes your car window? You want documentation that this person has hurt you before, badly, and that the cops did nothing. You might never need it, and I hope you don’t.
Too bad you don’t know any lawyers who’d do it for free, just the phone calls and stuff. Seems like people with lawyers get taken more seriously.
Jesus, you’re a cancer survivor too? Makes me want to kick Debby in the face even more.
I think the lesson to be learned here is: Don’t make trouble, unless you’re young enough or crazy enough not to be held legally, financially, or administratively accountable.
My $.02 worth is to document everything - and i do mean EVERYTHING! Right down to the name of the officer who told you it wasnt the hassle to file charges. And then, if push comes to shove, you might have a case against the city… wouldnt the city mayor just LOVE to have a lawsuit on his hands?
So even the post office won’t do anything about the mail theft? I know they’re minors and aren’t going to get sent to federal prison but how about a little Scared Straight treatment at least?
Rick:
I have been thinking about your problem since I first opened this thread.
You don’t want to go after her, as with your luck the cops will arrest you. (At least that is what would happen if I tried it. That bastard Murphy is always standing right behind me, just waiting.)
How can that be, the SOB never leaves my side!
Anyway what you need to do is to convince this bitch and her hell spawn that you are bad ju-ju without having actually done anything that could get you arrested.
in other words you need to run a PSYOP on them.
Let me give you an example. I knew a guy who’s mom kept getting obscene phone calls. Finally he got one of the calls. Now this guy was an actor and pretty quick on the uptake, so as soon as the caller went into his spiel, my buddy responded. First off he clenched he teeth and panted very loudly between his teeth. The he said “I know you, your the man who killed my father. I know where you live, I am coming over there.” The obscene phone caller hung up on him, and never called back.
So may I suggest that you solicit suggestions from the SDMB as how to make them think that you are not a man to be screwed with.
I have two suggestions to kick it off with.
Do you still have any friends in the teams? Invite them to stop by. See if they can’t be in the front yard doing some type of SEAL craziness as hell spawn walk by after school. have the SEAL tell the kids that you once saved his life, and he is in your debt. He further explains that someone has been screwing with you, and if he finds out who they are, that person is in a shit pot full of trouble. He should then look them straight in the eye, and ask if they know anything about it?
LOLOL
Great stuff!
no need to involve any of my Buddies though… “#2 Crazy Face” has been known to work on grown men
Do you know any bikers? Not a RUB but a guy (or bunch of guys that are really into the lifestyle. Guys that look like they got thrown out of the Hells Angels cause they were too much of a scumbag. Scenario similar to #1 except after the kids leave, the guys on bikes follow them looping the block giving them the a long look each time they pass and the “I’m watching you” fingers to the eyes signal. I’m sure that if you toss this open to other suggestions, you will get some that make mine look like crap.
I love 'em… thanks
Oh, and I forgot until I was reminded by some the recent posts. Welcome to the boards, and thank you from the bottom of my heart for your service to our country. If we ever meet in real life, the drinks are on me.
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Give them hell. The police, the woman, and whoever gets in your way. This will only get worse as the kids age and the mom degrades. Take care of this. Get a cheap videocamera and have it ready by the window to get these bozos in action. You know they will come back. Get restraining orders. Make sure these kids are removed from this woman. Get the media involved. Don’t sit on this one. I have had my share of crappy neighbours and they have all lived to regret it. Never broke the law doing it, just used it against them.
I too hope I impressed on her the fact I “not someone with whom to fuck”.
Gods honest truth, Mrs. Justanoldvet was worried for the first couple nights… honestly, , I think, more afraid of what I would do if I caught em making more trouble, than what they might do… She took a TON of pictures, and insisted I get antibiotics at the ER. She also made copies of the police report, and made sure to witness the conversation with them when I got the copy from the cop shop, then took notes IN THE CAR before we even went home. Smart woman I married, eh?
Much as it pains me… to be fair, “Crazy Debbie” had no idea I’m battling cancer, nor my past military career.
On a slightly different subject… it amazes me how much I’ve divulged about myself here, seemingly instantly. Hellfire, I’ve got friends I’ve known for 30+ years that don’t kow about the cancer. guess this hiding behind a monitor anonymity makes it easy to open up, not to mention being very cathartic. So, to everyone that read the post, and responded… a sincere Thank you
I’m sorry if I was unclear:
The Post Office sent a Postal Investigator 'round. He talked to myself, the folks on both sides, and, I believe, the kids and their mother. He said I could get a copy of his report in “3-5 weeks”, but that it would almost certainly go nowhere, as they are minors, and the most they COULD get is probation or “community Service” in the case of the two older boys. The youngest he said they wouldn’t bother with at all.
Truth be told, I’m not too worried about them doing anything more serious:
I very calmly and very PRIVATELY ( hmm… maybe I should say… hypothetically, CYA )
let her know:
1: I am a former Navy SEAL
2: I have cancer
3: I’m not afraid to die or go to prison
( ok… the prison part was a lie. She doesn’t know that )
And then calmly suggested that if anything happened… to our home, cars, pets, whatever, I would hold her responsible. Personally. Then, whilst she screamed and ranted, I simply walked away.
Hope, you’re not in Madison, and it’s not my local cops acting like assholes. Sounds more like Milwaukee at a guess – the cops there returned a escaped victim to Jeffrey Dahmer for subsequent murder.
If you can get hold of a camera, get some pictures of your face today. I gotta say, I think you should follow Sophistry and Illusion’s advice about a video camera. Maybe not mounted on your porch, but close at hand to the door so you can record any future confrontations. You can pick one up for under a couple of hundred bucks now and they’re not much bigger than a pack of cigs.
Record what they do every time they do shit, leave it running and keep it close to the phone when you call the cops, and record it if the cops show up at your door for a conversation. You might even want to follow the kids home again, but don’t get so close. Personally I wouldn’t advise that, the mom sounds like the kind of fruitcake who might start shooting.
If this happens a couple of times and the police won’t do jack, bring your footage to the local TV station.
What’s the prosecutor’s office like in your area - that’s who makes the decisions really. The cops can choose not to take it to the prosecutor, but they really have the final say. I think that you should take it to them for a consult. It’s free, you know. They could see just how nicely you testify…
