Well, that’s a judgement call on your part. I (and probably KO) am slightly irritated when something that was once clever becomes cliché and people still keep doing it. Hell, this isn’t even my rant–I was trying to clarify it. Anyway, my guess is that if you don’t like rap, you can avoid the radio stations that play rap, but if you don’t like this self-aware we’re-so-nerdy white-guy-trying-to-rap stuff, they probably play it on the same stations as other we’re-so-nerdy stuff that you might enjoy listening to. (That sentence made sense in my head, but here… not so much, probably.) So you can’t avoid it. I dunno, I don’t even care that much.
Well, generally I’ve found it’s best to know what I’m talking about before I go spouting off. So sue me.
And FTR, Hack’s cover of “Boyz N Tha Hood” is a sincere tune. The lyrics are kinda post-ironic, but not presented as dorky. It’s treated reasonably seriously, and has some kickin’ guitar work. :shrug:
I wasn’t really spouting off. I can get mad and spout off. Believe me, that wasn’t it. And I offered the whole thing as a possible interpretation, not the gospel truth. I apologize for personally offending you so.
Cute. Sorry, but I have yet to be personally offended by anything anyone says on this or any MB.
It was just kinda strange and all.
And, uh, what the fuck is the OP?
Yeah, the OP didn’t mention “actual rap”. So you brought that up and I didn’t know how to respond. I don’t know KO’s feelings on “actual rap”.
“She’s actual size, but she seems much bigger to me.” -Johns
I dunno, I think I’d like to hear “White America” being done in a folk style. Oh shit, Eminem is white, isn’t he? Damn him! doing songs he wants to do and all.
The thing is, this is simply an outgrowth of a larger cultural phenomenon/irritation, which is “nerdy white guys adopting the affectations of black culture to be funny.” It was definitely going on in the early nineties, but one can see it in mainstream films as early as “Office Space” with the whole “nerdy white guy using ghetto slang and listening to gangsta rap in his car.” It’s certainly an irritating phenomenon with heavy racial overtones, and about as funny as a rapping granny.
Dude, have you seen Travis Morrison do “What’s Your Fantasy?” live? It’s the most insane, bizarre, awesome thing I have ever seen at a concert.
First, AwSnappity is a moron.
Second, if there’s any genre that needs to be taken down a few pegs it’s hip-hop. Hopefully, the craze will die and the rest of the world will be able to go on without ever hearing another forced rhyme or seeing another overfunded, talent-free music video.
And if having white kids saturate the airwaves with rap is the means to that end, bring it on.
“Excuse me, stewardess? I speak jive.”
Right, only hip-hop has forced rhymes and bad videos. All mainstream rock is ultra super cool, right?
Err, yeah- what? Anybody can do what they want, this is just about a form of humor that’s gotten old.
You said it. Based on the previews, by the way, it looks like Vince Vaughn is going to provide an exemplary, shockingly annoying version of this stereotype in Be Cool.
Where the hell have you been? White kids have been rapping for decades now. It’s not the end of rap, you putz, it’s a sign of how big it’s become. The Beastie Boys have been white guys rapping for almost years and they haven’t destroyed the genre- they’re some of the most respected people in it. Yiy. I don’t even like rap (I’ve got a few Beasties albums and that’s it), but I don’t like anti-rap snobbery either.
TMBG did a rap cover? Details!
You slept through “Reading for Comprehension”, didn’t you?
Once again, and more slowly: Hip-hop is a fad. There are lots and lots of bad acts in the genre because it’s a quick way to make money right now. Just like there were lots and lots of stupid hair metal bands in the 1980s and lots and lots of stupid folk groups in the 1960s. If having geeky white (or black or asian or indian) kids saturate the genre is what it’s going to take to kill the fad and force the untalented morons out, I say the ends justify the means.
Got it, yahoo?
Actually, yes - it was the moment that I finally lost all respect for him as an artist, a performer, and as a human being.
Oh, come on, Derleth! Even the white establishment had given up that attidue by 1990. Hip hop is most definitely an established genre, and there are actually about 30 active sub-genres of hip hop going on right now! It’s already mutating and evolving out of control. There’s some stuff going on in hip hop that would make your head explode, it’s so weird and creative and inventive.
You’re a fucking idiot. I’m not even a big hip hop fan, but I think to call it a “fad” is pretty ignorant. If it is a fad, it’s the longest-lasting fad I’ve ever seen - been going on since the late '70s. Hair metal lasted a couple years; '60s-inspired stupid folk music continues to be made - ever hear any Lillith Fair crap? Or, for an example of a decent band mining the vein, there’s Belle & Sebastian, who were definitely influenced by '60s folk music.
And there are plenty of hip hop artists who aren’t “talentless morons” ( funny, every time I hear somebody whine about how hip hop doesn’t require talent, I wonder why they don’t do it themselves, since it would be lucrative as well as proving once and for all how easy it is) - the thing is, just like in any popular music genre, they aren’t represented on commercial radio or MTV/VH1. Handsome Boy Modeling School and Dizee Rascal are two examples just from the past year. There’s good music in every genre. People who make claims such as yours just sound like reactionary, closed-minded buffoons.
Well, I wouldn’t list those artists, but at least they’re better than whatever mainstream hip-pop Derleth has probably encountered.