Backseat Hitmen (Off limits to living Mafia players)

[Hockey_Monkey]

Mafia - Star Trek Version

Some of the roles are obvious, duh. I thought it would be an interesting twist to combine a couple of the roles as well. And this isn’t completely thought out. I don’t really have any interest in moderating a game, so if someone else wants to run a version of this, just give me a little credit for coming up with it.

Roles:

Captain Kirk - (what you thought this was gonna be TNG? Nope!) - Vigilante/Guardian Angel. Kills each night in search of the Alien Life Form. Can also use his Kirkiness to protect one person on one night only. There is only one Kirk.

Dr. McCoy - The doctor. Uses his powers of healing to keep one person safe from the Klingons or Alien Life Form each night. There is only one Dr. McCoy.

Spock - The detective. Always right on his investigations because of is unparalleled powers of logic. Except if he investigates Khan, who will show up as a Red Shirt Crew Member. There is only one Spock.

Lt. Uhura - Mason/Informant - has access to the Klingon boards and knows the language, but does not post to them. Klingons know there is someone monitoring their transmissions, but does not know who. Knows other masons, but not if they have special powers. There is only one Lt. Uhura.

Sulu - Mason/Cop - Investigates one person each night. A crew member will always show up as a crew member, but other roles are 50/50 and can show as any other role if wrong. Knows other masons, but not if they have special powers. There can be up to two Sulus.

Scottie - a plain mason. Masons know each other, but don’t know if the others have any special powers. There can be up to 3 Scotties.

Red Shirt Crew Member - a plain vanilla townie who knows nothing and will likely die if picked for an away mission. (There are no Away Missions, but if you wanna call the lynchings that, I think that would be cool.) Everybody in the game who is not somebody else is a crew member.

Khan - Leader of the Klingons. Will show as a crew member if correctly investigated. There is only one Khan.

Klingon - the bad guys. Depends on how many there are in the game as to the exact number of Klingons.

Alien Life Form - Poses as a crew member and kills every night. Wins the game if it is still alive when either the crew erradicate the Klingon menace or the Klingons take the majority. There is one ALF.

Game play is much the same as the other games.

What do you guys think. I wanna play this one!

[sachertorte]

I’ve kind of given up paying attention to the game (for my own sanity), but I’d like to say, I think the SK deserves to win.

Go SK!

[nesta]

@sachertorte

I’ve kind of given up paying attention to the game (for my own sanity), but I’d like to say, I think the SK deserves to win.

Go SK!

I kinda agree, though I do still have some Mafia ties to that game. If the SK is who I think it is they’ve done a great job with the role and have a real chance at winning.

[Gadarene]

I kinda agree, though I do still have some Mafia ties to that game. If the SK is who I think it is they’ve done a great job with the role and have a real chance at winning.

Who do you think it is? PM me if you don’t want to share publicly.

[sachertorte]

Hee! The theming is fun.

@pimaspinner

Lt. Uhura - Mason/Informant - has access to the Klingon boards and knows the language, but does not post to them. Klingons know there is someone monitoring their transmissions, but does not know who. Knows other masons, but not if they have special powers. There is only one Lt. Uhura.

Uhura seems really powerful. Wouldn’t she be able to out the Klingons really quickly? The Klingons have to discuss who to kill (and vote?), by process of elimination wouldn’t she know rather quickly who is a Klingon and who isn’t?

I suppose the Klingons could have long debates about who to kill and go around nearly deciding on several candidates that also include Klingons, but still, seems like a very powerful role. And choosing a target for the Klingons would be a pain in the neck just to obsfucate Uhura. I see long nights with this one.

[Hockey_Monkey]

@sachertorte

Hee! The theming is fun.

Uhura seems really powerful. Wouldn’t she be able to out the Klingons really quickly? The Klingons have to discuss who to kill (and vote?), by process of elimination wouldn’t she know rather quickly who is a Klingon and who isn’t?

I suppose the Klingons could have long debates about who to kill and go around nearly deciding on several candidates that also include Klingons, but still, seems like a very powerful role. And choosing a target for the Klingons would be a pain in the neck just to obsfucate Uhura. I see long nights with this one.

Yes, a very powerful role, but one must be careful not to give out too much information and get killed. It wouldn’t be any fun if she came out and said “these are the Klingons”. She wouldn’t be able to stop a kill, but she would know the discussion behind it. If she slips up, she’ll get killed by the Klingons or sent on an Away Mission. Eh, It’s a work in progress and probably needs tweaking to bring it into line. I thought the theme would be kick ass. Dibs on the Alien Life Form!

[chrisk]

@pimaspinner

Yes, a very powerful role, but one must be careful not to give out too much information and get killed. It wouldn’t be any fun if she came out and said “these are the Klingons”. She wouldn’t be able to stop a kill, but she would know the discussion behind it. If she slips up, she’ll get killed by the Klingons or sent on an Away Mission. Eh, It’s a work in progress and probably needs tweaking to bring it into line. I thought the theme would be kick ass. Dibs on the Alien Life Form!

It would be interesting if she didn’t see the true handles on the Klingon board, just the content of posts and placeholders like ‘klingon01’, ‘klingon02’ and so on.
And as a total shameless plug - I’m really hoping to get my trading-n-negotiations game thread started soon, with fluiddruid’s benevolent approval. I’ve started a [thread=417405]discussion thread[/thread] about my idea here, and would love to see a few replies on it from anybody who’d be interested in taking part in something a bit less deadly. Especially so that I don’t just sink right off the forum page. ::sigh::
PS: Good thing I previewed - first time I accidentally linked to the closed “Mafia III-Observation deck…Off Limits to Living Players” thread.

[Suburban_Plankton]

Just a quick reminder: please don’t post any commentary on the Mafia III game here. The Forbidden Thread v3 is here.

I post this because there was some concern expressed by some of the players in Game III (including NAF1138, this game’s moderator) that they wouldn’t be able to read this thread for fear of inadvertently getting “inside information”.

Thanks.

[Blaster_Master]

Is it just me, or is MonkeyMensch’s last post one of the scummiest looking posts since the one that got suspicion of Suburban Plankton really rolling?

So Aguecheek may be lying… still, if he’s not, the mafia will kill him tonight.

Why would the SK kill pimaspinner? There’s no way the SK DIDN’T kill glee, because there was a LOT of suspicion that he was mafia and helping the town is still his best chance for victory AND the mafia has no reason to get rid of him due to that suspicion. Killing pimaspinner last night was the ONLY conceivable move last night.

Man, I hope someone calls him on this.

[Hockey_Monkey]

Yeah, that post didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.

[NAF1138]

I am glad they have finally slowed down and really started looking at what people posted.

Town needs a win today, for morale if nothing else.

Nesta, I also think the SK is doing a great job…but I missed it, who do you think is the sk?

[MadTheSwine]

I think SK is Queuing.

[glee]

@Blaster Master

Why would the SK kill pimaspinner? There’s no way the SK DIDN’T kill glee, because there was a LOT of suspicion that he was mafia and helping the town is still his best chance for victory AND the mafia has no reason to get rid of him due to that suspicion. Killing pimaspinner last night was the ONLY conceivable move last night.

I assume that the SK thinks killing Townies is the quickest way to win.

The Mafia will kill a Townie a day; the Town don’t seem to have a clear line on Mafia, so could lynch either Mafia or Town; therefore the SK should reduce Town to the level of Mafia (and could even kill Masons!).

I didn’t see much suspicion pointed at me during the game.
I never got more than a couple of votes to be lynched and my posts were more frequent and ‘meatier’ than most of those remaining…

[Blaster_Master]

@glee

I assume that the SK thinks killing Townies is the quickest way to win.

The Mafia will kill a Townie a day; the Town don’t seem to have a clear line on Mafia, so could lynch either Mafia or Town; therefore the SK should reduce Town to the level of Mafia (and could even kill Masons!).

I didn’t see much suspicion pointed at me during the game.
I never got more than a couple of votes to be lynched and my posts were more frequent and ‘meatier’ than most of those remaining…

I disagree. I thought the case for how the mafia could delay victory to route out the SK was good reasoning. Further, the SK would be silly to kill unconfirmed townies if he’s trying to help the mafia, 1) Because the mafia want to kill confirmed townies at this point and 2) Because it makes the chance of him being lynched higher. That is, if he were really going after the town, I imagine he would have killed a mason last night.

I agree that you weren’t REALLY high on anyone’s scum list openly, but you were on a few. I’d be suspicious of whoever had fingered you as mafia or, if the SK is really smart, he didn’t finger you, and used someone else’s opinion to try and frame them.

That said, I thought it was more likely you were town than mafia, but I could understand how some of the others thought you were scum.

And on further reflection, I have a prediction: Lakai is the GF! Remember, you heard it here first. He just looks SO, SO scummy to me, and “didn’t want to waste” and investigation, and now he’s essentially cleared. Should the town go after him yet…? Absolutely not, because it’s not worth the risk, especially with other candidates, but it’ll be a shame if he gets ignored after a couple more mafia are caught.

[Fern_Forest]

@NAF1138

I am glad they have finally slowed down and really started looking at what people posted.

When I saw what they were doing I thought “Good idea. I’m glad I’m dead.”

Frankly I think it would be the weakest part of my game were I alive.

[Hockey_Monkey]

@Blaster Master

I disagree. I thought the case for how the mafia could delay victory to route out the SK was good reasoning. Further, the SK would be silly to kill unconfirmed townies if he’s trying to help the mafia, 1) Because the mafia want to kill confirmed townies at this point and 2) Because it makes the chance of him being lynched higher. That is, if he were really going after the town, I imagine he would have killed a mason last night.

I agree that you weren’t REALLY high on anyone’s scum list openly, but you were on a few. I’d be suspicious of whoever had fingered you as mafia or, if the SK is really smart, he didn’t finger you, and used someone else’s opinion to try and frame them.

That said, I thought it was more likely you were town than mafia, but I could understand how some of the others thought you were scum.

And on further reflection, I have a prediction: Lakai is the GF! Remember, you heard it here first. He just looks SO, SO scummy to me, and “didn’t want to waste” and investigation, and now he’s essentially cleared. Should the town go after him yet…? Absolutely not, because it’s not worth the risk, especially with other candidates, but it’ll be a shame if he gets ignored after a couple more mafia are caught.

I still think Lakai is scummy as well. When I investigated him, I got a “pro-town” role, not vanilla citizen. I’m not convinced he’s town at all.

[Blaster_Master]

@pimaspinner

I still think Lakai is scummy as well. When I investigated him, I got a “pro-town” role, not vanilla citizen. I’m not convinced he’s town at all.

Damn, I was under the impression you got vanilla-townie… Well damn, especially if you got anything other than the other cop… that’s damn scary that he ISN’T going to be pursued, because that is pretty much proof that your investigation was false.

[Hockey_Monkey]

@Blaster Master

Damn, I was under the impression you got vanilla-townie… Well damn, especially if you got anything other than the other cop… that’s damn scary that he ISN’T going to be pursued, because that is pretty much proof that your investigation was false.

I don’t want to put the role I got in this thread, but I’ll PM you with it if you want.

I tried in one of my last posts to the game to hint that my reading of Lakai wasn’t vanilla, but I don’t know if anyone picked up on it. I could have gotten a real and for true reading on him, and if I did, I didn’t want to chance outing him.

[Blaster_Master]

@pimaspinner

I don’t want to put the role I got in this thread, but I’ll PM you with it if you want.

I tried in one of my last posts to the game to hint that my reading of Lakai wasn’t vanilla, but I don’t know if anyone picked up on it. I could have gotten a real and for true reading on him, and if I did, I didn’t want to chance outing him.

I didn’t pick up on that at all. I would appreciate the read you got, I still think he’s scum, but if it’s something else, I might read something else into his posts. Thanks.

[Fern_Forest]

I can’t believe people are still claiming. Now that has to be it, right?