Please point to where I said it was ok to go into the details of a sexual relationship if someone asks about the affair?
But hey, feel free to make up whatever shit promotes your anti-taco platform. Or perhaps you’d like to continue the discussion in rational and honest fashion.
Your call.
And that is the point. Why would Maria’s version of the truth be more valid than JPs? If you are in twick’s shoes, knowing JP, but not knowing Maria from Adam - she’s just some woman who emailed you, why do you put greater weight on Maria’s side of the story? What responsibility do you have to take the word of a woman you’ve never met, over a man you have been known (both as friends and biblically) for four years?
Personally I’m wondering what Derek Trucks thinks about all this. 
That’s because you’re a clueless fucking idiot.
I weep for anyone who’s in a relationship with you and has to put up with your completely retarded views on how relationships work.
You have no fucking idea about trust in a relationship and an even more retarded view that someone should be suspicious of the motives of someone they trust.
It’s mindboggling stupid for anyone to make any kind of assumption that the woman is being truthful. Or at least completely truthful. It’s also stupid to assume that Twickster is being completely glib about the entire situation.
But hey, you can’t help it, right. You’re just a fucking moron.
Jesus Christ, the stupid here is stifling.
I admire your persistence, but it’s like talking to rocks.
Clearly a few people her don’t understand the concept of trust in a relationship.
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BTW, I reported my own post.
There’s a lot wrong with this post, including the fact that it’s in the wrong forum.
First, I’m fairly sure that I’ve forgotten more about relationships than anything you think you know. I haven’t lasted 20 years and three kids (and still going strong) with one person without learning something about relationships, so this is really a laughable swing and a miss on your part.
Secondly, nothing in this thread has anything to do with relationships, nor have I made any comment about them (and if I DID make a comment about relationships, I’d be right, just for the record). The discussion in this thread has been about sexual ethics, and about tact when dealing with people who claim to be in relationships with someone you’re sleeping with. Relationships, per se, don’t play into it.
Thirdly, nobody is making an assumption that this Maria person is necessarily being completely truthful. What I’ve been saying is that it doesn’t matter. If you don’t know what’s going on, then you leave the situation. It’s simply not relevant what the ultimate truth is.
And yes Twickster was glib. That’s not an “assumption,” that’s an observation.
Twickster never said she “trusted” this guy, by the way. I don’t know where you’re getting that from. She basically just said she didn’t ask and didn’t care if he was involved with anyone else.
In the future, tacoloco, take your insults to the Pit. You know what the rules are, so follow them.
Or believe its blown out of the water when a stranger comes forward and makes an unsubstantiated claim.
No one has said that it is, but Twickster never said she trusted this guy in the first place. Her attitude towards his relationship status was expressed as being one of complete incuriosity and indifference prior to being contacted by this woman, and the needle doesn’t seem to have moved much even now.
ETA, Twickster hasn’t even really said she doesn’t believe Maria. It doesn’t appear that she thinks Maria is making things up, only that she doesn’t care.
“You know you have a drinking problem when the bartender knows your name — and you’ve never been to that bar before.”
–Zach Galifianakis
I don’t care about that. I posted what I wanted to and I’m taking my warning as expected. I don’t feel one bit of remorse for it and I said as much when I reported the post.
Well, Dio, I’ve been married 28 years and have two grown sons. So I’m thinking I know a bit more than you. Sadly, you’re not displaying much in the way of all of that relationship knowledge you claim to have.
This thread has NOTHING to do with sexual ethics and EVERYTHING to do with relationships. The relationships between Maria and JP & the relationship between Twickster and JP. You’re trying to make it about ethics when it isn’t and wasn’t ever about that.
Some folks in this thread have tried to conflate the issue into something it is not.
Or you trust someone when they tell you what’s going on. Which is why I have an issue with your position. You want people to assume that JP isn’t being truthful and that Twickster is wrong for believing what he told her.
So, in the end, Twickster should walk away from her relationship with JP simple because some random stranger alleges that JP has been in a “long term” relationship with her. Unless Twickster has doubts about JP, there is no logical reason she should do that.
Using that logic, if someone called your wife and said you were having an affair, she should break off her relationship with you beacuse she doesn’t know all of the facts.
And yes, this is a relationship question, because this situation is, in fact, a relationship question, despite your position to the contrary.
It’s clear she trusts the guy if she’s taking what he said as being truthful, which seems to be the case. She doesn’t have to explicitly state that she’s trusts him.
Twickster, please answer this question. Do you trust JP to tell you the truth?
No, she doesn’t want to be part of the “soap opera.” :rolleyes:
Remember?
The one thing you seem to think I don’t know about relationships is that sometimes people have different perceptions of the same relationship? i do happen to know that. It’s just not something that’s germane to the topic.
There is no relationship between Twickster and JP, by her own admission. It’s just someone she fucks sometimes. The only issue at stake there is the ethical one. Should she keep fucking a guy who she has reason to believe could be (probably is) cheating on somebody else? There is no “relationship” issue involved because there is no relationship.
She has no good reason to believe him. Saying she should believe him because she “trusts” him (which she hasn’t said she does) is a tautology.
Twickster is not in a relationship with this guy, and yes, she should walk away if there are any unresolved questions about his relationship status, at least until those questions are resolved to a greater degree of certainity than the guy saying, “she’s a liar baby. she’s crazy lol. don’t u trust me?”
Twickster is not in a relationship with this guy, and my wife (unlike Twickster) has resaon to believe and trust me.
This is not clear at all, and she hasn’t come close to saying so. The tone of her OP was that she just didn’t care, not that she thought maria was a liar. She also said she could see that maria was in pain, so that does not imply that she either disbelieves Maria or trusts JP.
Personally I’m wondering how anyone with functioning eyeballs thinks Derek Trucks is an attractive man! :eek:
Clearly you and I have a different opinion of what constitutes a relationship. She’s clearly friends with JP, so from my perspective she has a relationship with him, even if it’s just a fuck buddy.
I think you’re wrong that this is strictly a sexual ethics question, but it’s clear that you’re just interested in pushing that position as the “correct” one.
Have fun with that. I won’t be addressing any more of your points in this thread because to do so only frustrates me.
He is OMG TEH BEST GITARIST EVAH111 and I am so going to marry him when I grow up. Or is that Randy Rhodes? I get mixed up.
Oh come on, a “relationship” is generally pretty damn near understood to mean a romantic/sexual relationship. A friendship is “a friendship”.
This thread is pretty long, but I don’t think Twickster has answered the question of whether or not “Bad Boy” CCed Maria in his reply. Bricker asked this and it bears repeating (unless I somehow missed the answer and if so, I’d like the post number so I can feel dumb ;)).
Some of the people against Maria are basically saying that there’s no way to know if she’s telling the truth, but all they’re doing is accepting JP’s version as absolute truth, which is just as impossible since none of us actually know.
And no, Twickster, you really don’t have any tact if you think that beginning and ending in your email was fine.
So, we assume Maria is a big ol psycho whore bitch*- fine. The question still remains:
If they’ve been broken up since December, how did Maria get on his computer?
I bet she’s like, a super hacker. That crazy ass, Al Qaeda bitch.
If I were Twix, I’d get out of this situation regardless of who I believe. If you believe Maria, this guy is dipping his wick all over the place and while I’m alright with casual sex, I’d rather not contract whore herpes. If Maria’s a liar, well, nobody’s making him stick his dick in the crazy. Why would you want to have any type of ongoing relationship (fuck buddy is a relationship, just not exclusive) with someone who makes such stupid decisions just to fuck somebody? Once again: herpes. Fuck no.
*Funny enough, I’ve noticed this is sleaze ball defense numero uno: “OMG, SHE’S SO FUCKING CRAZY!!!1111!!! I DONT EVEN KNOW HER I DONT THINK I’VE EVER EVEN MET HER AND LIKE, SHE STALKS MY LIFE OMGGGGGGGG SHE’S SOOOO PSYCHOOOO.” Funny, those poor, sweet men who are fucking anything with a slit always get the crazy girls stalking them-- probably because they are such awesome lays 
With great power comes great responsibility. . .
Sorry, no. And even if I’d concede this point, Twickster was having a sexual relationship with the guy.
Dio, you’ve made it clear in the years you’ve been here and responded to threads that you are a bona fide expert in relationships that are exactly like yours in the moral particulars, and that in your opinion relationships that are not exactly like yours are immoral, silly, immature, or some combination thereof. I submit that doesn’t exactly make you Dr. Ruth.
–Z, knows far more women who’ve pulled something like Maria to destroy a guy’s life than he knows guys who lie about their extant commitments, observation worth exactly as much as any other anecdote.