Batman Vs. Nite-Owl II, both are Prepared, who'd win?

I just picked up a copy of the Watchmen DVD, and I was quite impressed, I was expecting another formulaic “BatSpiderSuperMan” movie clone, boy was I wrong…

…I could have done without the Full Frontal Doc. M views though…

I tended to empathize with Rorshack out of all the characters, we have very similar views on criminals…

I was thinking, Nite Owl II has a similar M.O. to Bats, lots of gadgets to make up for the lack of actual Super abilities, so…

in a battle, who would win, Bats or NO II, both are appropriately prepared

Battle 1; NO II Vs. Bats, direct conflict between the two of them to see who is superior
Battle 2; direct competition to see who can stop the most criminals

Battle 1 is one of those “What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?” type scenarios: The universe collapses. Duh.

Battle 2 I cannot comment on, as I have zero knowledge of the Watchmen series.

I’d give it to Batman; the whole point of the “if he’s prepared” cliché is that he excels at rigging up specialized counterweapons tailored for particular opponents. Nite Owl doesn’t really show any signs of doing that; he’s just about having general-purpose gear on hand. (It’s excellent general-purpose gear; he could plausibly win a no-prep-time fight against Batman, if neither of them is expecting anything when it suddenly goes down and one guy is behind armor plate ready to blanket the area in sonics or whatever. But he’s not really a Batman-style tactician.)

It’d have to be a pretty unusual situation.

Night Owl has some excellent tech, but he’s somewhat paunchy and doesn’t really appear to be in the same league as Batman re being a fighting machine.

Night Owl is too old to take on Batman one-on-one – he’s in his forties*; while Batman never seems to age to 30. Batman just has to wait until he tires out.

Though it strikes me that Night Owl never gets into a hand-to-hand fight, anyway.

*He’s implied to be so in the comic; the reference is to Ozymandias, but due to the structure of the scene it also refers to Night Owl.

Nite Owl II is a softie. Batman isn’t. Advantage: Batman.

NO2 wasn’t really very impressive, Batman would wipe the floor with him.

Well, we never really saw Nite Owl in his prime, so it’s hard to call. Of course, no one beats Batman on the internet so…

NIght Owl’s DCU counterpart was Ted Kord, who actually gave Batman a good fight once. Generally speaking, bet on Bruce Wayne.

Keep in mind that Bruce keeps himself in top condition and knows seventeen different ways to kill you with his pinky(not that he’d actually use them) Dan’s kinda let himself go a bit and seems to be more of a brawler when the time comes to get his knuckles bloody.

Going by the numbers, the Flying Mouse takes it, but probably not easily.

Also, if Batman’s prepared, he could just crack impotence jokes, and Night Owl would cry like a little bitch with a skinned knee and shit.

So, the general consensus is that Bats wins, and NO would be better off competing against Der Fledermaus? (The Tick animated series)

If we’re talking about NO from the movie, yes he will have his feathers plucked. NO from the novel gets the tar beat out of him until he remembers the laser pen in his pocket.

Comic book Nite-Owl does tend to carry some fairly lethal gear on him. The Owlship is equipped with a flamethrower, and he attacks Ozymandius with some sort of hand-held laser weapon.

But yeah, he’s out-of-shape and out-of-practice. Even in his prime he was much more gadget-based than Batman is. He is a competent hand-to-hand fighter (remember him and Silk Spectre beating up a group of street punks on their own, after being caught unaware), but Batman is one of the most accomplished fighters on his planet.

Another big plus for Batman is that he’s used to dealing with foes who are vastly more powerful than he. In his world, he fights supervillains with actual superpowers (Clayface, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy) and all sorts of menaces alongside the Justice League.

Nite-Owl’s only experience with a superpowered individual is Dr. Manhattan.

Also, note than when Nite-Owl does get in a fight with his physical superior - even though he gets the drop on him and has backup in the form of Rorschach - he is thoroughly trounced within seconds.

NO from the movie has one as well – it’s just that OH MY GOD HE’S FLINGING A CHAIR AT ME, and then it’s gone, same as in the novel. (If anything, though, I’d figure the movie version of NO is shown to be a better martial artist than his comic-book counterpart: dropping multiple opponents in rapid succession, effortlessly breaking people’s bones, all of it.)

A better match for Batman would be Ozymandius, who’s in peak physical condition.

Yeah, Ozy took out Nite Owl and Rorschach, using nothing but cutlery, and didn’t even break his monologue while doing it.

So Ozymandius is The Blue Raja??? Well, THAt explains a lot.

I just threw in the dvd and I’ll be damned, he does have a laser pen.

But here is the real question, NO got stomped by Onymandias, is Batman faster than Ozy?

Batman, AFAIK, isn’t fast enough to sight and catch a speeding bullet. Ozymandias does it some time after casually batting another bullet away with a handy ashtray.